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Poltics And Our Issues: Who's With Us?
Posted by Chris McConnell on February 25, 2004 at 3:57 PM   (printer friendly)

Politics And Our Issues: Who’s With Us?

By Chris McConnell

February 24, 2004


Well, folks, it’s time once again for me to weigh in on an important part of
our fight for America’s ultimate freedom. I have always heard before the
complaints from users of this site that politics plays no part in our fight.
And I will always come back with the same response: It has EVERYTHING to do
with our fight. If we do not have the higher-ups on our side, we will never
have a fair chance to get our issues dealt with.

With all the talk of politics lately, I’ve seen a great response. I’ve seen a
lot of questions about who stands where on certain issues. This tells me that
it has become imperative to issue an updated article to address the issues at
hand.

The candidates are as follows:

George W. Bush

John Kerry

John Edwards

Dennis Kucinich

Al Sharpton

Howard Dean

Ralph Nader


(I have included Dean despite popular opinion that he is no longer in the
race.)

The issues are as follows:

Patriot Act & Patriot Act 2

Copyright Reform & Intellectual Property

Corporate Power

Education


(I have included Education because it is important to make sure that children
get the best education possible. This will make sure that they are able to
gain the book smarts needed to fight the wrongs of society from the inside.)

- Patriot Act & Patriot Act 2 -

This is one of the worst things to come from the Bush administration. For
example, the sentence before this could get me labeled as a terrorist or enemy
combatant under the Patriot Act and Patriot Act 2. If you think that the
Patriot Act makes you safer, think again. You could suffer the same wrath if
Boycott RIAA was to be called a terrorist organization. Don’t think this could
happen? Rod Paige, Education Secretary, called the NEA (National Education
Association), the nation’s largest teachers union, a terrorist organization.
Now, if they are labeled a terrorist organization, we could be labeled one as
well. We’re in danger, alright.

[George W. Bush]

There is no research needed to find the answer to this one. By signing it, he
violated the Constitution and took away our sacred right to privacy. And with
Patriot Act 2, he’s ensuring that all Americans lose their basic rights. While
he thinks it’s a great measure to protect the country, he doesn’t realize what
it’s doing to instill fear in the minds of the innocent. He is also trying to
get some provisions renewed before they expire next year.



[John Kerry]


“We must never forget that the rights guaranteed us in the Constitution are
precious, and one of the very first things that the terrorists we’re fighting
would destroy. We do not need to give away our personal liberties to protect
our country. We must defend our freedoms and defend ourselves against
terrorism.”

It’s important to note that Senator Kerry voted FOR the Patriot Act even
though he knew how wrong it was.

[John Edwards]

“America must always be safe and free. The administration has sacrificed our
freedoms – without even advancing our security. While they are not taking
needed steps for our homeland security, they have taken steps that endanger
our most fundamental liberties.”

John Edwards also voted FOR the Patriot Act even though he knew how wrong it
was.

[Dennis Kucinich]

“I am the only presidential candidate to vote against the misnamed “Patriot
Act”. I am proud of that vote. As President, I will push to revoke it. And I
will challenge any Patriot II sequel, because I know that America is a great
country when Americans feel free to dissent, to advocate for reform –
Americans like Tom Paine, the abolitionists, the suffragists, the early union
organizers, Cesar Chavez, Rachel Carson, the women’s movement, Rosa Parks, and
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.”



[Al Sharpton]


“They seem to be a throwback to the COINTELPRO days of J. Edgar Hoover, Dr.
Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Black Panthers – making legal today what was
illegal then. These ‘Patriot Acts’ appear to be using the legitimate fear of
9/11 to pass illegitimate legislation. This legislation is unpatriotic in the
most unpatriotic sense.”

[Howard Dean]

“As President, I will repeal those parts of the Patriot Act that undermine our
constitutional rights, and will stand against any further attempts to expand
the government’s reach at the expense of our civil liberties.”

[Ralph Nader]

Ralph Nader is against the Patriot Act. He called it the “Patriot(less) Act”.
It is clear that he takes the same stance as the Democrats. I could not find a
direct quote, but from what I did find, he would most likely repeal it.

(Let it be said that both John Kerry and John Edwards, although they voted for
the Patriot Act, they did what they could to try to get the questionable parts
removed before it was passed.)

- Copyright Reform & Intellectual Property -

The number one priority for Boycott RIAA is Copyright Reform. Or it should be.
We all know the system is broken to the point where, in order to fix it, we’d
have to start over. But there is something to make it better without starting
over. There are many different views on what should be done, but until we get
an administration that would help fix this problem, we cannot start to work
out the details.

[George W. Bush]

We’ve seen what’s been done under this administration, and we know that we
don’t like it. I did searches and checked his official re-election site, and I
found nothing pertaining to copyright reform. And when a search is done for
intellectual property as it pertains to file-sharing, I can only find
something from the election year of 2000 when Napster was a big deal. All that
said was that the Bush/Cheney ticket didn’t have a stance on the issue.

[John Kerry]

When a search is done on Google for ‘John Kerry copyright reform’, the first
result you get is CodeWarrior’s article titled, “Update On The John Kerry
Board”. Congratulations, Code. Now everyone who runs that search will see a
sentence that says the following: “Kerry is bought and paid for by corporate
America”.

Another result shows the following statement: “In the meantime, Larry Lessig
points out that John Kerry has been tone deaf so far to the copyright issues
raised by the copyright reform movement, which is a disappointment.”

Everything on Kerry’s site mentions intellectual property piracy overseas in
countries like China. You’ll find nothing on file-sharing there, so I’ll give
you the statement by Kerry in the Hollywood Reporter interview that upset
Lessig:

“I think any kind of mass file sharing that goes beyond the normal
college-dorm, room-to-room, person-to-person, friend-to-friend kind of sharing
is a violation of the law. I believe in copyright. I think we would have
complete disorder in the marketplace if you don’t enforce copyright. Copyright
is the way you create order out of chaos in the marketplace. Otherwise, you
diminish the value of intellectual property and artistic property, and you
wind up not enforcing the rules by which people are compensated for their
work. I think the US has been very lax in dealing with China and other
countries on intellectual property regulations, and I have long argued that we
ought to be enforcing those measures very, very strictly. Now, I have worked
hard with the industry to try to find some ways to create an appropriate
technology that allows people to share. The problem, obviously, in the digital
world, is that one tap of a button on a Web site and you can transmit to
millions a perfect copy. So I think we have to find a technological fix, and
frankly, it has been economic self-interest that has prevented people at
arriving at an appropriate compromise...”

[John Edwards]

I found nothing about copyright reform on Google or his official website. A
search for intellectual property found his comments in Lessig’s blog: “Several
people wanted to hear more about intellectual property, so I thought I would
focus on that today. The first priority of intellectual property law is to
foster innovation and progress for our society. To achieve that goal, the law
must protect the rights of inventors. And there must be a fair balance between
the scope of those rights and the public interest.”

[Dennis Kucinich]

His comments in Lessig’s blog bring me this quote:

“As a good friend of many artists and engineers, I understand and support
their need to make a living. As a father, I don’t believe our government has
any business locking up kids for sharing files on the internet. As a
Congressman, I have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United
States, which states very clearly in Article 1, Section 8, that “The Congress
shall have the Power: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by
securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to
their respective Writings and Discoveries”.”

Further down is the following:

“The framers knew the importance of the progress of science and useful arts.
Their intention was clear. Unfortunately, corporate interests have intruded on
our process of government. The overwhelming influence of political money from
corporate interests has corrupted the ability of Congress to protect science
and the arts. Today, much of our science and useful arts is coming forth from
sources independent of monopolies, thanks to people like you. Yet Congress
continues to try to limit certain activities of inventors and artists in order
to preserve corporate power and domination. We must, once again, move to
reclaim the promise inherent in Article 1, Section 8.”

 [Al Sharpton]

I could not find anything on copyright reform or intellectual property.

[Howard Dean]

A search for copyright reform and intellectual property brought me the
following quote from Wired magazine: “Dean has been reluctant to take a
position on core Net issues like copyright law and peer-to-peer file-sharing.”

It’s interesting that he used the Internet to bolster support, yet he refuses
to speak on one of the most important issues at the heart of most of his
initial supporters.

[Ralph Nader]

I am still waiting for a response from Mr. Nader on this issue. When I receive
a response, you will be the first to be notified.

As a bonus, I will add the comments from CPTech (Consumer Project on
Technology), started by Ralph Nader in 1995, on the Intellectual Property
section of the FTAA (Free Trade Agreement of the Americas):

“The chapter on intellectual property should be eliminated altogether. Every
significant economy is already subject to the WTO TRIPS Agreement, and it is
not appropriate to require that countries adhere to strict TRIPS-Plus rules on
intellectual property, even before they have implemented the TRIPS agreement,
or when high levels of IP protection are inconsistent with social or economic
development objectives. The draft FTAA would require members to abide by
dozens of IP treaties that are now voluntary and not required by the WTO,
including, in some proposals, treaties that have yet to be written. By placing
non-WTO IP treaties in the FTAA, the ability of countries to opt-out of
treaties is eliminated, and the provisions are subject to new dispute
resolution provisions that will impose new costs on even the poorest members
of the FTAA. Also, many of the new FTAA IP obligations go far beyond anything
that currently exists in any multilateral IP agreement.”

Also, from the same document, I give you a statement about the copyright terms
granted to the copyright owners by enacting the FTAA:

“The proposed text extends minimum terms for copyright and related rights, far
beyond the TRIPS agreement, shrinking the public domain. The minimum term of
copyrights would be extended from the 50 years required by TRIPS to 70 to 120
years, including a 95 year term for corporate works-for-hire where the authors
receive zero royalties. The protection for photographs would be extended by 25
years, the term of protection for broadcasting would be extended from 20 years
to 50 years. Industrial designs would be extended from 10 years to 15 years.”

Below that, they go on to say:

“Untested and highly controversial requirements for digital rights management
would be required, many of which require costly public enforcement measures,
and undermine traditional fair use rights.”



- Corporate Power -


This is another issue we feel strongly about. The recording industry is trying
to completely take control of the radio, internet, internet radio, and
television. Not to mention the retail market. The movie industry is trying to
do the same on a smaller level. Microsoft has a monopoly, and has taken over
the majority of homes via Windows. This operating system is the most readily
available OS in the world, rendering the consumer fairly helpless when
shopping for a computer.



[George W. Bush]


Halliburton. That says it all. Bush gave no-bid cost-plus contracts to
Halliburton. He’s allowing corporations to profit from the reconstruction of a
foreign country. The only thing he vows to do with corporations is punish the
bad CEOs that poison (my own word) the business world (i.e., Kenneth Lay, Sam
Waksal, etc.).

[John Kerry]

Kerry wants to clean up the acts of CEOs and the rest of the board room. He
also wants better relationships between workers and employers. There was
nothing I could find directly related to this issue. There may have been a few
tiny things floating around about certain guidelines, but I didn’t see any.

[Dennis Kucinich]

“Despite overwhelming influence which corporations have in the life of our
nation, I see a new era of corporate accountability. I see a new horizon in
America where ethics, sustainability, and sensible priorities guide corporate
conduct in cooperation with vigilant, fair-minded, government regulation.”

Further down, we find the best quote: “We cannot stand by idly while powerful
economic engines – virtually unregulated corporations – violate workers’
rights, human rights, and the environment, sweeping aside antitrust laws,
eliminating competition.”

Dennis’ past shows that he has and will always stand up to corporations in
order to keep them in line. He does not want them taking over the old ways of
American life.

[Al Sharpton]

In 1991, he founded NAN (National Action Network) which aims to provide
economic support for small community businesses, among other things. I think
it’s easy to see where he stands on this issue.



[Howard Dean]


“When the balance of power in Washington shifts and private interests trump
the common good American capitalism has been betrayed. Over the last 30 years,
we have allowed multinational corporations and other special interests to use
our nation’s government to undermine our nation’s promise. They have brought
access to power with their campaign contributions and their lobbyists. And
they’ve used that access to ensure that the laws – and most importantly the
tax code – benefit them.”

[Ralph Nader]

It’s easy to find Ralph’s stance on this issue. His many writings on
corporations show that he is against their virtual takeover of the United
States government. He admires Kucinich for standing up to corporations and
will no doubt do so himself.

- Education -

Education is the most important fundamental institution in America’s history.
You may not think it is important to us, but that’s not true. If the children
are taught and prepared for life as it may become, there is a bright future
for our country. That bright future will probably bring the freedom we’re
fighting for now. If the school system has teachers like I did, the country
will be better for it.

[George W. Bush]

He promises to make educating every child his top domestic priority. His ‘No
Child Left Behind Act’ supports early learning, regular measuring of students’
progress, detailed report cards about the schools, helping children stuck in
failing schools to find a better school, and ensures more resources for
schools.

(It should be noted that he still hasn’t followed through with his promise
thus far, and has let the schools continue to decline in quality.)

[John Kerry]

John Kerry believes that we need to invest in our schools instead of giving
tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans. John Kerry also believes that given the
demands of a global economy, every single child has to be able to reach high
standards in order to prosper. John Kerry will support teachers, reduce class
sizes, and rebuild crumbling schools.

[John Edwards]

From his official site:

“John Edwards knows that a good public education can help a young person
overcome tremendous odds and reach his or her potential. As president, John
Edwards will end the shame of the two public school systems in America where
the quality of education too often depends on the affluence of the
neighborhood. That is why John Edwards has a comprehensive plan to strengthen
our schools, support our teachers, expand after-school programs, and improve
our high schools. He also has offered a plan called "College for Everyone"
which would make college tuition free for the first year for every person who
is qualified to attend a public college and is willing to work part-time.”

[Dennis Kucinich]

Dennis believes in the right of every American child to a high-quality free
public education. He intends to improve the quality of public education in
those schools that are struggling, and to expand public education to include
pre-Kindergarten beginning at age 3 for any families that want it, as well as
tuition-free college for millions of students.

[Al Sharpton]

Sharpton believes that educations should be a constitutional right. “One of
the things that I’ve said is that we need to deal with the structure of how we
deal with rights in this country. We have to have the right to education from
the Constitution, the right to health care. I’m talking about fundamental
rights. I’m not talking about just new programs.”

[Howard Dean]

“Education must be a broad, evolving process, beginning not from the moment a
child enters the classroom, but from the moment that child enters the world.
It requires early preparation for success, assurance of health and learning
throughout the school years and a commitment to the accessibility and
affordability of high education is that every student has the chance to live
out America’s promise.

[Ralph Nader]

Back in 2000, he had an idea that was great. And every kid I knew in school
would have loved it: Get rid of standardized testing and teach civil skills.
And by looking at his stance now, it appears he still stands by that
statement. There is a quote at his official site.

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There you have it. Every candidate on each and every issue that is, or should
be, important to us. I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone
for the compliments and encouragement in the past with every article I’ve
written. And I’d like to thank those who run this site for allowing me to
express my creativity. It’s because of my articles being here that I continue
to work towards my ultimate goal of becoming successful because of my writing.

To everyone who reads this:

GET OUT THERE AND VOTE WITH YOUR HEART!

Your mind cannot be counted on when there is deception around every corner.
Make a wise decision.
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Links For Further Information

George W. Bush - georgewbush.com
John Kerry - johnkerry.com
John Edwards - johnedwards2004.com
Dennis Kucinich - kucinich.us
Al Sharpton - sharpton2004.org
Howard Dean - deanforamerica.com
Ralph Nader - votenader.org
CodeWarrior's article - http://news.dmusic.com/article/10591
Hollywood Reporter's Kerry Interview - hollywoodreporter.com/thr/business/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=2077032
Lessig's Blog - lessig.org/blog


User Comments (These do not necessarily reflect the beliefs of this site)

undeath  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 4:09 PM
I know it may sound like I'm bashing Bush and Kerry, but I was fair to each and every one of them. Everyone was treated equally, and however it came out is the way it is.

I'm still with Kucinich as I promised a long time ago.

CodeWarrior  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 4:27 PM
Chris....I as gone and didn't post it personally...did you want me to re-edit it with the colors and all?

undeath  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 4:29 PM
Yeah, that would make it easier to read.

CodeWarrior  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 4:33 PM
am on it :)

undeath  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 4:34 PM
I misspelled Politics in the title on the front page. So much for no spelling errors...

CodeWarrior  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 4:39 PM
got too much space now...will work on it :)

corvette65  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 4:53 PM
Good article! Just one thing I feel the need to comment on:

"Now, if they are labeled a terrorist organization, we could be labeled one as
well. We’re in danger, alright"

That remark has already had a public apology, I don't think this is a valid defense for your particular point.

HOWEVER

I do think the RIAA would be more than pleased to try to make us out as terrorists anyway. And they do have the money to use the media to try and spin off that:
"Protesters are writing viruses and hacking their website out of frustration that the law is being used against them to end piracy."
Something like that, but it might give us too much publicity to be worth the risk ;-)

CodeWarrior  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 4:56 PM
Chris...I didn't see CodeWarrior listed :(

undeath  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 4:59 PM
I could make a revision, but we all know your position already. Also, if I compile a list of links, will you add them? I wanted that in there.

undeath  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 4:59 PM
Did you see my shoutout in the Kerry block about Copyright Reform? Nice...

CodeWarrior  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 4:59 PM
Sure.. :)

CodeWarrior  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 5:03 PM
Chris..if you have some links for me to add...could you send them in a dmusic note please?

Bufo  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 5:26 PM
This is an interesting little piece on current politics. Just a few thoughts:

(1) If Edwards and Kerry "knew how wrong" the Patriot Act was, why the heck did they vote for it?

(2) I'm not surprised that copyright reform is not on the radar screen of any of the major candidates. But it shoud be. The fact that it isn't means that Boycott-RIAA and others have their work cut out - namely, to educate the public about the need for copyright reform!

(3) I agree that the 'No Child Left Behind' has not been a smashing success as far as education is concerned. At the same time, though, I am not convinced that simply throwing more money at public schools is the answer. The US spends more money per pupil than just about any other major industrial power, yet many of our graduates are way behind in the international arena.

Public schools today are hamstrung by threats of litigation and questionable agendas by education activists on the far left and far right. We should perhaps consider doing what Washington DC is starting to do; rely more on vouchers. Vouchers are not a perfect solution, but they will help spur more accountability in how public schools are run.

TheSherminator  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 5:29 PM
"They seem to be a throwback to the COINTELPRO days of J. Edgar Hoover, Dr.
Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Black Panthers..." haha. Al Sharpton is such an idiot. This is all he talks about. He's not a politician, he's a loudmouth who thinks he's important.


That aside, I'm still in the process of reading everything. This is a great article, and thank you Chris for putting so much time into it.

undeath  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 5:31 PM
That's what Kucinich is saying, too. It actually makes sense to me.

Thanks for reading it. I just hope it makes as big an impact as I intended... more of a wake-up call...

undeath  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 5:52 PM
Now for my opinions...

- Patriot Act & Patriot Act 2
I'm with Kucinich on this one. Not just a repeal. We have to revoke the powers granted.

- Copyright Reform & Intellectual Property
For this, I have to take the side of Kucinich, and add that Edwards would be great for us.

My take on this is: 25 year protection, option to renew for another 5 years. If not, it enters public domain. If yes, then it enters public domain when those 5 years are up. It may not sound good to some, but this seems like the perfect number for me.

Get rid of the FTAA. It will make a high minimum copyright term. Get rid of WTO (has to do with this AND trade). TRIPS is in WTO, and adds years to copyright term. NAFTA needs to go with this. American business with limited outsourcing is my solution.

- Corporate Power
Oh, please... I'm with Kucinich and Nader. I admire both for their actions which prove their commitment.

- Education
I love Kucinich's idea and with a little Nader in there. I loved learning civil skills and talking about the real world. Stories, plans, etc. It's the way to plan ahead, learn life lessons, and make learning fun. Make the academics an on-the-side thing. No 1-1 1/2 hour classes. Make them 30-45, depending on the day. 4 days a week for academics; those 4 days with a little civil skills. One full day of civil skills. Trade high schools, like the one I attended, should go by that, and academic schools should make it 3 academics with civil skills, and 2 full days with activities.

I would've attended every day and wouldn't have purposely gotten suspended.


That's my take, and I'm sticking to it...

awehr  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 5:54 PM
I recently had an argument with a friend and was unable to open his eyes to the wool that has been pulled over them. this is terrible and a suit for libel should be levelled against the riaa for defamation of the public before more like him sprout out of the pile of manure the RIAA has buried us in.

CodeWarrior  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 6:06 PM
What is fascinating to me is that there are so many people who have been Republicans in the past, who swear they are going to vote for "anyone but Bush" (that phrase has really caught fire)...because they are saying he is too liberal.

There is a growing Patriot movement int this country who have certain
issues that the NeoCons have avoided addressing...

- utsourcing of Jobs (recently, a Bush spokesman said that was a good thing)
- Open borders (Not going to belabor this point, but Bush's comments about illegals, has really bothered the Patriot folks, and he seems not to care)
- Patriot Acts I and "II"
- The Judge Roy Moore issue of taking the Ten Commandments monument out of the courthouse
- Iraq
- Bad or poor treatment of our service people
- Bush's "military" record
- Actions of the IRS
- The Militarization of our Police Forces
- Gun control
- NAFTA, FTAA, GATT, etc.
- Involvement with the UN
- Skull and Bones / Bohemian Grove- Worship of Molech
- Economy, Economy, Economy....
- New World Order stuff...RFIDs, national identification cards,
Echelon, Carnivore, Magic Lantern, etc,.

There are other issues , but these are just the ones I hear most.

So, you have many republicans vowing not to vote, many independents of course not voting for Bush, many democrats not voting for Bush.....

I guess...he'll just have to rely on Diebold...
the old saying "I don't care who votes, how the vote...I just care who counts the votes...."

CodeWarrior  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 6:07 PM
Oh yeah,...Health Care and medication issues, and Social security too...

CodeWarrior  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 6:09 PM
meant "outsourcing of jobs",...darn clumsy digits :)

undeath  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 7:10 PM
Kucinich got 2nd in the Hawaii primaries last night! He beat Edwards! Wow... Maybe he's right about ending up winning the nomination at the DNC...

MikeGruz  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 7:14 PM
On the question of "accountability" of schools, I think ol George should be held accountable for his actions as president....

But honestly, No Child Left Behind is a joke. Wow, more tests-that means a lot. When I was in high school, I NEVER studied, but always did well on tests. Know why? I happen to be a good test taker. Big whoop..you remember anything from the ACT (or SAT?) Neither do I. I know people who are very smart who aren't good test takers, so their grades weren't always too good. Tests are not the answer. I think if the parents were held accountable, grades would improve. Get little Jimmy off the playstation and have him do his homework or study, it won't kill him. I believe the problem is not with the schools (well, in some cases, but...) but with the parents not having control over their kids. Just my two cents anyway...

CodeWarrior  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 7:23 PM
great points Mike!

I agree with you.

and Chris...yeah...I'm for anyone but bush and anyone but Kerry....

Kucinich, Edwards, or the Libertarian guy, or even Nader...but honestly, I don't think Nader has ever really thought he has a chance winning..
He's trying to bring up issues...

undeath  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 7:29 PM
Getting the kids off video games is good if the video games are bland and boring, not to mention repetitive. I play games constantly that need skill, decisive action, etc. I stopped playing 18 hours a day without playing a skills game, and look where I am now... writing.

I don't think Nader will be able to make it to the ballot unless he joins back up with the Green Party. He needs 10,000 signatures in 22 states, and they don't think he can do it. Green Party's all set.

If Kucinich gets the nomination, he could definitely win because everyone who would have voted for him will make the decision to do so instead of going with Kerry. And it would be great to have a Kucinich/Edwards or Edwards/Kucinich ticket.

raoulduke1  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 7:32 PM
Great article. Very thoughtful. I like Kucinich. However, for his sake he better hope he doesn't win because they will kill him for it.

libertyordeath  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 7:42 PM
Education isn't something that can be fixed with money and testing. The honest truth is that many kids simply don't want to be in school. They have set it akin to torture and as I heard earlier today before a mandatory reading period of only 20 minutes "We gotta fricken read now? I rather take a $#!# in a book than f*****' read it." Simply put, one only gets as much from an education as they put effort into it. School isn't fun, but if parents seriously impressed upon their children the value of an education and it's necessity later in life hopefully kids would take school more seriously. Perhaps they would put in a little bit of effort to try and make their futures brighter. Perhaps they would read the book assigned because they wanted to expand their minds.
With all the distractions and modern electronic conveniences our society is spiraling towards a grim future of wanting little more than instant gratification. If we really want to improve this country we shall need to change the minds of the people, and not the laws telling them what to do. If we are able to somehow erase the apathetic curse growing upon the people of our nation, the legislation would soon follow.

captdunsel  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 7:44 PM
good article. good research. cnn could learn from this.

I'm still pulling for Nader.

undeath  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 7:45 PM
I honestly think he has a chance to win. Tons of people who are choosing to vote for Kerry or Edwards really want Kucinich. If he gets the nomination, they'll go for him.

I've been thinking about people saying it's unfair that Nader is running. 9 times out of 10, it doesn't matter. I think it's going to be time for another Democrat in office. Bush > Clinton > Bush > ?Democrat?.

But if you go by this:
Reagan > Bush > Clinton > Bush > Bush, we're screwed.

Really, I know it's dumb to go on this type of pattern, but it's something I thought of... just in case life's set out ahead of time...

TheSherminator  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 7:48 PM
"But honestly, No Child Left Behind is a joke. Wow, more tests-that means a lot. "

I agree. Tests are one thing in school that will always be present, but never benefit anybody.

Just a way to see how everyone is doing they say. Yeah right, then they wouldn't make it a grade, they'd adjust their teaching methods and fire teachers accordingly.

What we need in schools:

1) Teachers that care
2) Teachers with intelligence
3) Parents that are responsible for their children


Someone told me that this girl passed a note to two boys in her 4th grade class asking them to have sex with her. It had a graphic drawing of her on it, and one of the boys accepted. The principal found out and called in the parents. The parents got mad and said she can do what she wants with her body.

If you want to improve schools, you need more funding, better teachers, and parents that aren't stupid.

undeath  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 7:49 PM
CNN could definitely learn something from me. I wanted to cover everyone so I could show them up in a way. I could have easily left out Dean, Bush and Nader. I hate how they left out Kucinich. Now they aren't ignoring him. They can't. The next day after I sent an email telling them to get smart and be fair, they started covering him. Now he's getting 2nd place in the primaries. Pretty cool.

He should have more letter writing campaigns.

independentm...  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 7:49 PM
Great job putting all this together Chris!
I hope a lot of people check it out before choosing their candidate blindly. A lot is at stake in this election. I'm with Code on the "anyone but Bush or Kerry" thing and am more than half convinced to "throw away" my vote and write him in. Barring a miracle, it's obviously a race between Bush and Kerry and it looks like Kerry ain't even gonna consider us. I have this odd feeling that most of us boycotters are gonna hand the election to Bush by voting our hearts and minds instead of the barely less of two evils.

...but you know what? SO BE IT!

Shmoo

awehr  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 8:30 PM
bush: evil but blind and stupid

kerry: evil but also directed and intelligent.

well the choice is obvious, intelligent, guided, and dangerous to our cause, or moronic, unguided, and dangerous to our cause!

If someone is going to chuck a bomb at me id much rather it be unguided than precision.

CodeWarrior  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 8:56 PM
Shmoo...you never throw away your vote if you vote your conscience....

That's the way I see it...
and thank you :)!
~Code
My election slogan is...
"Hey, I'm not BUSH! :) and I'm not rich :) "

TheSherminator  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 9:24 PM
" it's obviously a race between Bush and Kerry and it looks like Kerry ain't even gonna consider us. "

And Kerry doesn't have a chance I don't think. Any other democrat would win.

murderswitch  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 9:39 PM
I'm still with Nader. What can I say? The guy tells it like it is.

negatyve  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 10:42 PM
The Sherminator:
You quoted Sharpton and insulted his opinion, but anyone who has watched how the Patriot Act has been used, he is exactly correct.

Powers such as these in the hands of powerful men will use them on anything that threatens that power. Take the Anti-War movement. It recently leaked that the FBI has been investigating Anti-War activist organizations. Most of which are made up of students. This is exactly what COINTELPRO did. And they were able to justify doing this through the Patriot Act.

It is not the race card. COINTELPRO was used against the anti war movement durring vietnam. And now since the birth of the Patriot Act, Department of Homeland Security, and every other fascist development in this country in the past few years...we can expect to see it used against people who voice opinions against the actions of the powerful.

The Patriot Act is legalized cointelpro, it's intention is to empower the government to silence dissent. We already have the tools necessary to combat terrorism. Even 9/11 is considered an incredible intelligence screw up because we had more than enough evidence that it was going to happen (but i suppose that depends on if you are irrational and believe it was a "screw up").

But anyway, enough ranting and raving about that.

Voting does not change any major issues...if voting could change things, and make the government take care of it's people and help stomp out corporate rape and so on, then voting would be illegal...because there would just be too much power in the hands of the people to actually change things.

Don't believe that? What has voting done to change the world for the better since World War II? And the even the voting system is designed to make it impossible to promote change. They give you two name brands (democrats and republicans) and a shelf of generic canidates. And independent canidates will never win for the same reason storebrand cola will never outself Coca Cola...because only a handful of people who know enough about them will invest in them, otherwise it's just vote whoever.

Then you have the system of primaries, the electoral collage, ect ect.

Voting is a spectical, nothing more. The only things that are ever changed are irrelivant public policy issues. I mean seriously, how important is it to worry about abortion laws when there are children who die from having no food or shelter in this country?

demonchild  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 10:43 PM
I have issues with most of the politicans, Bush spends to much and I don't believe any of the dems will do what they say they will, preaching/bashing is easy, but you have to ask who do they owe favors too. The only difference between a Republican and Democrat is who they owe favors too.

All these problems can be fixed if the politicans actually wanted them to be fixed. What can they possibly debate about if they actually fix the problems though. I would be more interested in seeing what bills the candidates have put forward or sponsered.

Also don't let the Dems fool you they are just as rich as the Republicans. I get sick from seeing them try and play off as the common man (that goes for both sides actually). And they will look out for the rich as much as the republicans will. Its all done with smoke and mirrors folks ;) they both screw ya the same

Cantido  
Date: February 25, 2004 @ 10:43 PM
Oh were all thinkin it, just come out and say it!

If Bush gets re-elected, his first act as President will be to blow up the earth!

There! I said it!

death123  
Date: February 26, 2004 @ 4:39 AM
ahahahaha blow up earth.

Yes, I'd love to vote Liberatarian but I don't see that as likely now. I've been considering Nader quite a bit but he may not even make the ballot. Reading this brought me another canidate i really like in, Kunich (or however its spelt). Glad i read this.

CodeWarrior  
Date: February 26, 2004 @ 12:45 PM
I guess I better get my cardboard sign ready and some comfortable shoes ready if King George II wins a second term...
Right now, this country spends 1 million more per minute than we have...that's increasing the deficit 60 million per hour...as I understand it

undeath  
Date: February 26, 2004 @ 12:51 PM
If he wins again, there will be more questions than last time. I believe it will come down to another decision instead of the votes. I just don't understand the voting system. Who needs Electorate and Popular votes? Shouldn't there just be everyone voting and there's only one single group of votes? It doesn't make any sense...

undeath  
Date: February 26, 2004 @ 12:52 PM
I'll be suspicious if he wins by any more than a few votes... there's no possible way that he could win by more than a thousand votes...

TheSherminator  
Date: February 26, 2004 @ 5:36 PM
"Who needs Electorate and Popular votes? Shouldn't there just be everyone voting and there's only one single group of votes? It doesn't make any sense..."

The electoral college protects the rest of the country from letting California get overpopulated and then having all of those loonies decide who is president. Different ideas are dominant in different areas of the country. While it may seem that 50%+ is a fundamental aspect of democracy, I think it is important to realize that certain areas of the country can have dominant (and sometimes bad) belief systems evolve that are not good for Democracy/freedom/the Constitution. If an area grows in population and CA, or the west coat in general (or anywhere else this could happen), and that is coupled with beliefs that endager liberty, then those people will win and essentially control the government themselves. That's my opinion on it anyway..

The electoral college is a provision to protect freedom.

Also - thank you for enlightening me on Kucinich's views. I think he may be me my candidate to vote for.

TheSherminator  
Date: February 26, 2004 @ 5:40 PM
I wonder what this country would be like with 100% voter turnout.

Lachatte  
Date: February 26, 2004 @ 9:38 PM
Chris, You did a nice job. Have you read this article about John Edwards?
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/12/features-blume.php

undeath  
Date: February 26, 2004 @ 10:28 PM
That article backs up what I've grown to believe. He's got courage, and I admire him.

independentm...  
Date: February 26, 2004 @ 11:12 PM
"Shmoo...you never throw away your vote if you vote your conscience....
That's the way I see it..."

true, "throw away" was in quotes in my post cause I was using the words merely as a figure of speech

Shmoo