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Indecency Wars
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/04/14/fcc_and_indecency/index.html
Indecency wars
Activists who beat back the FCC on media consolidation are dismayed to find former allies leading an unprecedented effort to restrict radio and TV content.
By Eric Boehlert
News that the powerful chairman of the House Judiciary Committee wants to move indecency enforcement out of the hands of the Federal Communications Commission and start arresting broadcasters on criminal charges for indecency infractions is just the latest example of the aggressive bipartisan one-upmanship that's unfolding in Washington as politicians jockey for position over who can crack down harder, and with more imagination, against indecency on radio and television.
Public and legislative discussion of the indecency issue used to be limited almost exclusively to election-year cycles, but that tradition has been broken as momentum builds to institute the most radical FCC reforms in U.S. broadcast history. And unlike the last headline-making FCC debate -- over the contentious issue of media">http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2003/05/23/powells_fight/">media consolidation -- the current commission seems unified in its pursuit of those reforms, worrying activists who fear they skirt too close to censorship and would give politicians unprecedented control over the content of our culture.
The latest battle over indecency, sparked by Janet Jackson's infamous 2004 Super Bowl performance and embraced by both political parties, will heat up in coming weeks as the Senate crafts its indecency bill, which will then be married in conference to the version the House passed easily last year.
Among the sweeping, get-tough reforms Congress is considering are increasing the fine for indecency infractions from $32,500 to as much as $500,000 per incident, revoking broadcast licenses, instructing the FCC to start policing violent content as an indecency infraction (something the commission has never done before), fining artists whose broadcast material is indecent, fining writers who create indecent material in advance (as opposed to lines ad-libbed over the air), extending the agency's reach to include cable television and satellite radio, and requiring cable companies to offer a greater variety of channel packages so viewers can avoid potentially objectionable programming. (Because cable television is a paid subscription service, rather than a free public broadcast, the FCC now has no jurisdiction over its programming.)
But it was the comment by Judiciary Committee chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., that moved the debate into a drastic new direction -- one that was unimaginable just 18 months ago. Last week he told industry executives attending the National Cable and Telecommunications Association trade show that criminal prosecution would be a more efficient way to enforce the indecency regulations. "I'd prefer using the criminal process rather than the regulatory process," Sensenbrenner said.
"This is crazy," says Jeffrey Chester, executive director of the Center for Digital Democracy, in reference to this Republican trial balloon on criminalizing content. "Regulating the creation of content is a very slippery slope. Today it's raunchy words. What is it tomorrow?"
"Based on what's happened so far" in the indecency debate, "I fear the worst," says Robert McChesney, a professor at the University of Illinois and the founder of the media reform group Free Press.
Analyzing some of the agency's recent indecency rulings, former FCC commissioner Gloria Tristani says, "I'm concerned the FCC has gone too far." Chester, McChesney and Tristani are veterans of the recent media consolidation campaign, in which a unique, bipartisan coalition rose up to successfully oppose the Bush administration's attempt to further relax ownership rules for companies such as News Corp., Viacom and the Tribune Co. During that battle, media activists enjoyed almost uniform support from Democrats as well as the backing of some renegade Republicans who broke with the party leadership.
In contrast, media activists scrambling to blunt the indecency momentum have few supporters on the Hill. In fact, key Democrats such as Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.V., and Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., have been out front in support of the proposed FCC reforms. Says Chester: "I think it's alarming how so-called liberal members of Congress are into indecency group-think. They are contributing to this chilling effort to curb speech." Although it may be disappointing to lose their support, it's not so surprising that Democrats as well as Republicans want to take such a stand in the indecency debate, which is regularly framed as an attempt to protect children from lewd and vulgar programming.
What is surprising for free-speech advocates such as McChesney and Chester, who fear the effects the indecency reforms could have, is that when they look across the newly formed battle lines they see some of their closest anti-media consolidation allies leading the charge for new enforcement of content.
The most glaring examples are FCC commissioners Michael Copps and, to a lesser degree, Jonathan Adelstein. The Democratic duo played a central role in rallying broad, grass-roots support against then FCC chairman Michael Powell's plans to OK further media consolidation. Yet they are now among the key communications officials inside the Beltway who, along with grass-roots conservative groups, have called out for an indecency crackdown.
"I have an enormous amount of respect for Michael Copps," notes Rep. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., a congressional point person during the anti-consolidation battle. "He, more than any other person in the country, led the cry in explaining the danger of media consolidation. I have love and respect for him. On this issue, though, we disagree."
"Our two [primary] issues of concern are media concentration and censorship," explains Jonathan Rintels, a screenwriter and executive director of the Center for Creative Voices in Media, an artists advocacy group. "We think the world of commissioner Copps and commissioner Adelstein, but we're disappointed on their stand over censorship. Without Copps and Adelstein [the fight] has been difficult."
Indeed, an assertive voice of caution -- the type of counterweight Powell had to fight over media ownership -- simply does not exist when it comes to the issue of indecency. "We don't have a clear anti-government, 'let's use some restraint here' voice at the FCC," says Rintels.
"Of course it would be helpful to have people on our side at the FCC," notes Sanders.
It's true that Adelstein recently sounded a cautionary note, warning that any effort by Congress to extend indecency regulation to cable and satellite television "would likely be held unconstitutional in the courts." Says former FCC commissioner Tristani hopefully, "Maybe commissioner Adelstein can be persuaded that the [indecency] regime has gone too far." "I am very concerned about the First Amendment implication of going after artists for indecency fines," Adelstein told Salon in an interview. In the House version of the legislation that passed recently, artists could be fined if their music were broadcast and found to be indecent. "It's not the artists' responsibility to adhere to FCC regulations about indecency. It's the broadcasters' responsibility not to air indecent content," says Adelstein, who warns that targeting artists would have a "chilling effect on free speech." Copps was unavailable for comment for this article.
Today Copps is marching arm-in-arm with the newly appointed FCC chairman, Republican Kevin Martin, against indecency, much to the delight of cultural conservatives. "We have a great deal of respect for chairman Martin and commissioner Copps," says Tim Winter, executive director of the Parents Television Council, which has led the charge in filing indecency complaints, often against the most popular shows on television. "Both of them have been beacons of light [on] this issue."
It was Copps and Martin who dissented on the FCC's $755,000 fine against Clear Channel Communications for 26 indecency violations by four of its radio stations last year, saying the punishment was not harsh enough. Copps wanted to hold hearings about revoking the stations' licenses, while Martin wanted to fine the radio giant more than $1 million.
And in January the same two objected to parts of an FCC ruling that dismissed 36 indecency complaints against TV shows such as "Friends" and "The Simpsons." Copps argued that the commission should have investigated the charges more thoroughly.
Martin, who has close working ties to the White House, is often seen (and portrayed in the press) as an eager warrior in the indecency battle, and his appointment as chairman was cheered by conservative groups that lobbied on his behalf. "If President Bush appoints a strong chairman and a public-minded second [FCC] commissioner, things will finally change," Tony Perkins, president of the pro-family Family Research Council, wrote to members this winter. "This is an historic opportunity and one that the FRC team won't let slip away. I have been working on this for some time, making calls and sending letters to key U.S. Senators and Congressmen urging them to let President Bush know we want appointments to the FCC who will enforce indecency law. I have weighed in at the White House also."
But in truth, Martin joined the indecency game much later than did Copps and Adelstein, who for years served as de facto indecency cops at the FCC as they relentlessly chided Powell for not being tough enough on enforcement. (Powell once famously said, pre-Janet Jackson, that when it came to policing content he did not think the government should serve as the nation's "nanny.") "Chairman Powell only came to this issue [of indecency] and to enforcing the law at the barrel of a gun," complains the PTC's Winter, referring to the political firestorm that followed the Super Bowl incident.
It was Copps who in 2002 suggested adding "excessive violence" as a definition of over-the-air indecency, arguing, "It's time for us to step up to the plate and tackle the wanton violence our kids are served up every day." It was Copps who in 2003, writing to the PTC, gave the FCC an "F" for indecency enforcement. And it was Copps who told the Washington Times last year that steamy daytime soap operas could become a potential target in an FCC indecency crackdown.
What may be additionally frustrating for activists who worked on the same side as Copps and Adelstein during the consolidation battle is that the two FCC commissioners first embraced the indecency issue via the media ownership debate. At the time, they argued that as fewer and fewer corporations bought up more and more programming outlets, there would be a race to the bottom in content, and that without hands-on local owners, radio and television stations would no longer have a sense of community standards, leading to an increase in indecent programming. Both Democratic commissioners urged Powell to order a study of that possibility. In a 2002 written statement to the press, Copps wondered, "Has consolidation led to an increase in the amount of indecent programming? When programming decisions are made on Wall Street or Madison Avenue, rather than by local broadcasters on Main Street, does indecency grow more pervasive? We must answer these questions before the Commission votes on whether to eliminate our media concentration protections this spring."
That rationale struck a chord with cultural conservatives, who were already protesting raunchy content and distrustful of allowing major media empires to expand. Even today, on the Parents Television Council home page, right next to the "Broadcast Indecency" banner, visitors can learn more about the issue of "Media Ownership/Localism."
"I sat two chairs away from [PTC's] Brent Bozell and testified alongside him" at congressional hearings on media consolidation," recalls Rintels. "I could've written his comments and he could've written mine. We see a link between ownership and indecency," he says.
In the end, Copps and Adelstein were not able to get Powell to look into the "consolidation equals indecency" angle of the ownership debate. And Martin himself quietly sided with Powell in voting for relaxing the ownership rules. (It will be interesting to see if Martin, as Powell did before him, tries to keep separate the issues of consolidation and indecency.)
The bipartisan flavor of the effort, however, proved to be critical in getting Congress to rebuke the FCC's new media ownership rules. "It was very important and something we worked on incessantly," says McChesney. "For Republicans to go against leadership in the House or Senate on media consolidation, that required a tremendous amount of courage, and that backbone came from hundreds of thousands of conservatives around this country saying this is important to us."
Now that indecency has moved to front and center, some media activists are concerned that the issue of consolidation will get lost in the stampede to crack down on indecency. "I made the case to Copps that the solution to indecency wasn't censorship and fines, it's breaking up the media monopolies," says McChesney. "My sense is he's well aware that censorship is not the way out of this. He gets that. He's basically a progressive guy. He's very concerned about vulgarity issues and he's talked about fines, but he's not on the side of full-throttled censorship."
Copps is not the only key anti-consolidation player who has teamed up with the indecency activists. Consumers Union, which played a central role in rallying opposition to the new ownership rules, is also pitching in. The pro-consumer group has for years pushed the idea of a la carte choices for subscribers, demanding that cable television providers allow customers to pick and choose the specific channels they want to watch and pay for. Cable companies, though, have balked at the idea.
Now Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, the powerful chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, has embraced cable choice as a possible way to deal with indecency. The idea is that if parents were offended by a potty-mouthed sitcom on Comedy Central (such as "South Park"), for instance, they would have the option of not paying for it. (Cable channels don't have to adhere to the same definitions of indecency as broadcast networks do, and only an act of Congress could change that.)
"Too much of the indecency debate centers on censorship. We think a la carte could be a salvation and would mean more choices for consumers," says Susanna Montezemolo, a policy analyst for Consumers Union, who stresses that the group does not share conservatives' larger concerns about cracking down on indecency. "We've been working with some strange bedfellows on this sliver of the indecency debate, such as the Parents Research Council, Concerned Women of America and other conservative groups. But we're very careful in where we're going with this and what we advocate for: cable channel choice." She adds, "Creative coalition building is critical right now in Washington."
The Center for Digital Democracy's Chester warns, however, that "working with groups that want to censor speech is always dangerous." He and others recall that last Veterans Day weekend, more than 20 ABC affiliates refused to air the Academy Award-winning film "Saving Private Ryan" because of concerns station owners had about the gritty movie's profanity, and whether the get-tough FCC might even issue fines for the broadcast of a World War II drama. There's a tremendous amount of self-censorship going on already, agrees Rintels.
But in the light of the FCC's recent dismissal of several indecency claims, is the fear of widespread censorship overblown? The rejected claims were filed against Nielsen-rating staples like "Friends," "The Simpsons" and "CSI," as well as a couple of newsmaking incidents. One incident involved a sultry promo for ABC's "Monday Night Football" that featured "Desperate Housewives'" Nicollette Sheridan dropping her towel in the locker room while trying to seduce NFL star Terrell Owens. The other incident concerned a CNN producer who inadvertently screamed some profanities when balloons at the Democratic National Convention failed to drop on cue following Sen. John Kerry's prime-time address.
"In context, none of the segments were patently offensive under contemporary community standards for the broadcast medium, and thus not indecent," the agency said in a statement. The FCC also ruled that "the material was not profane, in context."
Observers on both sides of the debate doubt that those rulings serve as a good barometer of where the FCC and Congress are heading on indecency. "Chairman Powell left office frustrated by his legacy of indecency enforcer," suggests Winter at the PTC. "That really embarrassed him. So on his way out the door he dismissed a whole bunch of complaints."
Meanwhile, Rep. Sanders finds no comfort in the FCC's dismissal of complaints against "Friends" and "The Simpsons," suggesting the pendulum has swung so far to the right that hugely popular, family-friendly shows are already being scrutinized for content infractions. "Let's take a deep breath. I don't pay all that much attention to television ratings, but wasn't 'Friends' one of the most popular shows on television? And the FCC ruled it wasn't indecent? Look at where this debate about indecency is already," says Sanders.
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CodeWarrior
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Date: April 14, 2005 @ 5:17 PM
We are in the throes of a bizarre, and wicked combination of modern day Puritanical thought, a drive toward theocracy ( the danger of being ruled by the American Christian Taliban), and reactionary mechanisms that see freedom and want to stamp it out before it takes root.
This may sound rather polemic and overstated, but I honestly think not.
The radical reactionary religious right sees an exposed jugular in the American throat, and is diving for it, like a hot dagger toward a pat of butter. They believe that the election of GWB means THEY have a mandate, well, as the son of a preacher myself, let me tell you someone, MANY THERE BE WHO HOLLER LORD LORD, BUT FEW THERE BE WHO DOETH THE WILL OF THE FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN.
It seems that in the radical religious right's Bible, there is no scripture about "Judge not lest ye be judged". And, while we are on the topic, it is odd to me that, with John Cornyn, ex-Atty General for the State of Texas, that he would even hint that the violence against judges is "understandable", and while we are at it, when they talk about "activist judges", are they also talking about all those Republican appointed jurists like Clarence "Long Dong" Thomas?
If you want to talk about indecency, how about suing grandmothers, 12 year old girls, dead women, and people who had no part in uploading or downloading copyrighted materials. To me, using the judicial system to threaten college kids around this country, and to attempt to intimdate them and try to force them to buy RIAA slave music, that's indecent to me.
If people want to talk about sexually oriented material as indecent, the MPAA needs to hold up a mirror to recent blockbuster movies like Sin City, Sahara, and the rest. Sex, violence....that's what has driven human history for millenia. The religious right add their own greasy, slimey goal to this , and that is POWER.
The religious radical right find a naked breast indecent, but who made that naked breast.
When one gets right down to it, if one believes the story in Genesis, God made Adam and from him, he derived Eve, and both were meant to be wandering around paradise, Eden, NAKED. It was only after they commited the sin of disobedience, that they realized they were naked, and felt ashamed they were naked and hid themselves. So, God's plan was nakedness, and clothing was the fruit of sin.
So, if we are to be really biblical, clothing is like an eternal homage to original sin...it is a symbol of sin itself (except in cold climates ).
If we demanded decency from our politicians, we would have empty halls of Congress, and we, like DIOGENES OF SINOPE who went looking in vain for an honest man, would forever be in search of a decent politician.
If we were to demand integrity as well as decency, we would just be "S. O. L.". |
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gdZiemann
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Date: April 14, 2005 @ 5:26 PM
My radio has been off for years now and I watch exactly one hour of television a week.
The "debate about indecency" has been going on for 50 years.
No matter what they do, it will have absolutely no effect on my life. |
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independentm...
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Date: April 14, 2005 @ 5:44 PM
Wait till they get a-hold of the net George. They ARE gunning for it.
The biggest problem is that the FCC forgot that it's job is to regulate who can own what amount of the public airwaves. It was NEVER intended that they be in the business or regulating what the content is. Content is supposed to be protected by FREE SPEECH. Only the free market and therefor, the will of the people should be the "regulator" of the content. |
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gdZiemann
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Date: April 14, 2005 @ 6:27 PM
All the naked breasts I've seen were pretty decent. |
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CodeWarrior
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Date: April 14, 2005 @ 6:48 PM
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_6576.shtml
"...The delusional world of social conservatives
By DALE McFEATTERS
Apr 14, 2005, 02:22
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Social conservatives could be excused for thinking they had won the culture war, but now they must wonder if it was a hollow victory.
Last year, they persuaded a number of states to ban gay marriages; they elected many of their number to Congress; they were making progress on getting religion back into the schools; and regulators and lawmakers were poised to crack down on dirty words.
Social conservatives may believe that gays should be neither seen nor heard, but this year they will see two cable channels aimed at gays, lesbians and transsexuals on the air, one called Here and the other Logo. Logo is owned by industry giant Viacom and is a basic channel already said to reach 10 million homes.
"Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" is already a cable hit, and it would surprise no one if a future episode had the gay band doing a makeover of the House Republican leadership.
There is trouble even within the social conservatives' own ranks. They generally consider Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., the embodiment of all liberal evil, and conservative political operative Arthur Finkelstein has vowed to bring her down with a campaign called "Stop Her Now." It turns out that Finkelstein got married in Massachusetts last December - to a man.
That wasn't the only problem within the ranks. The drive to purge the airwaves of dirty words was picking up steam when, last June, Vice President Cheney told Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., to go perform what is delicately described as an anatomically impossible act. And, in the kind of me-tooism that defined his presidential campaign, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., threw around a few F-bombs during the election season.
You can imagine a little kid saying, "Mommy, if the vice president can say it, why can't I?" Well, the little tyke can and probably does. A Washington Post story, under the headline, "More and More, Kids Say the Foulest Things," describes the battles schools are fighting to clean up the language of their increasingly foul-mouthed charges. "The kids swear almost incessantly," said one Illinois high-school teacher." |
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DeadMan2003
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Date: April 14, 2005 @ 7:02 PM
The only indecent 'tits' I have seen is the one's currently residing in office. |
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awehr
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Date: April 14, 2005 @ 8:45 PM
"We are in the throes of a bizarre, and wicked combination of modern day Puritanical thought, a drive toward theocracy ( the danger of being ruled by the American Christian Taliban), and reactionary mechanisms that see freedom and want to stamp it out before it takes root.
This may sound rather polemic and overstated, but I honestly think not."
It's not.. or at least my roommates agree.
Even the most centerist agree with your philosophy whole heartedly.
A battle between right and left is one thing, but in most cases that still remains within reasonable and constitutional bounds. This is no longer the case.
What keeps the people from moving unilaterally to clean house is the careful saturation of media with this grand idea that "american freedom" is somehow unkillable, unbreakable.. and that anyone raving about how it's disappearing is a looney conspiracy theorist.
I considered myself conservative during clinton's time in office, but now i'm called a left wing conspiracist looney when i voice the same opinons i voiced in the late 90's. Our nation is circling the drain. I'm simply happy for the mixed blessing of presence enough to keep grounded.
I continue to entertain the idea of moving to canada. If my friend joins me it will involve moving a 25 employee company out of the US..
These people piss and moan at each other, enact laws designed to "sell freedom to the highest bidder" as a "wholesale commodity" to be stocked in shelves, enact capricious laws for single individuals, and impose morality on people in a land where freedom to choose is sacred, then preach about this inalienable american freedom and wander where the economy went.
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tomsong
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Date: April 14, 2005 @ 9:10 PM
Right on, awehr, sorry about the prior misunderstandings we had. That being said, please ask your partners to hire my ass. And move to Canada. I thought last week you said it was Amsterdam. Whatever.
Did you realize that the FTC people asked Leflaw about your comments? Apparently they like your ideas. Wonderz never cease.
On the other hand, george is right. If you never watch TV, then you never have occasion to get upset about their sorry shit. |
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Jazzmary2U
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Date: April 14, 2005 @ 10:56 PM
yeah, Tom, I also have to agree with awehr, and although we have our differences, there is a good heart lurking there.. you KNOW we are in trouble, tho, when conservatives consider moving out!!!! :? :O |
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Jazzmary2U
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Date: April 14, 2005 @ 10:58 PM
And, as for tits.. Only decent ones I've seen have been fake, anyway... but it really don't matter, now, do it!!?? :gawk::lmao: |
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wet1
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Date: April 15, 2005 @ 1:28 AM
From tomsong's post...
"Did you realize that the FTC people asked Leflaw about your comments? Apparently they like your ideas. Wonderz never cease."
It seems we are wider read than I realized. I knew we were making a slash with a lot of folks but this is something I had not considered as an area that read our site. Prehaps we have a better ear than was thought. While I know that most won't comment, it is possible that the attention we are bringing to the scene is having some influance after all.
All I can say is keep up the good work, folks. You all are jewels when it comes to shedding light on "the sky is falling" routine. |
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wet1
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Date: April 15, 2005 @ 1:37 AM
Hmm, there is one other thing I think I would add.
For ages the FCC has preferred not to list what was or was not considered as indecent. Instead it was left to the interpertation of whoever was the director or head of the agency. However, with the raising of the bar on the penalties of indecent it is hard to determine just what is indecent. In fact, what usually happens is that someone oversteps the bounds to find out as there is no defination of what is an offense. Worse, change directors and you change definations. The fine isn't wishy washy when it comes time to pay it. Neither should the rules be set in jello either. If you are going to have the broadcasters pay for infractions then you should have just what is an infraction spelled out. The money has become hefty when it comes to the fine levied. The broadcasters do deserve a notice that says what is and is not punishable.
While it would not be a bad idea that Clear Channel lost their broadcast rights, I think it a poor way to do it. There is a better way. One that doesn't seem to be being addressed. That of the public service part of the agreement for the license. Since Clear Channel has all but done away with the local dj a good portion of the stations don't have anything like 24 hour coverage at the station. How can any community get out a public service warning of say a disaster on the highway or say of a chemical spill needing part of the populate to be evacuated if there is no one there to answer the phone, take the message, and get it on the airwaves in a timely fashion?
We, the public are being poorly served with the relaxing of the rules of ownership of media and how many can be owned by anyone company. |
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independentm...
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Date: April 15, 2005 @ 5:53 AM
"What keeps the people from moving unilaterally to clean house is the careful saturation of media with this grand idea that "american freedom" is somehow unkillable, unbreakable.. and that anyone raving about how it's disappearing is a looney conspiracy theorist.
I considered myself conservative during clinton's time in office, but now i'm called a left wing conspiracist looney when i voice the same opinons i voiced in the late 90's. Our nation is circling the drain. I'm simply happy for the mixed blessing of presence enough to keep grounded."
Awehr, you just SAID IT. (I have been trying to say that forever.) |
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independentm...
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Date: April 15, 2005 @ 6:00 AM
"For ages the FCC has preferred not to list what was or was not considered as indecent."
...again, it was NOT their job to do so.
Indecency is in the eye of the beholder.
NOT some government agency.
(You HAVE the on/off switch people, USE IT as YOU wish it to be used. DO NOT force your choices upon others.) |
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Lachatte
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Date: April 15, 2005 @ 8:11 AM
Speaking of restrictions, I read this article this morning:
China leading censor of Net, study finds
“China has the most extensive and effective legal and technological systems for Internet censorship and surveillance in the world today,” Palfrey told officials and reporters at a Congressional hearing in Washington.
China used multiple, overlapping filtering methods and a mixture of soft and hard controls, including blocking by keywords, formal legal pressures and pressure on users and content providers, he said."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7504944/
Is this the goal of the RIAA, MPAA, and USA? |
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tomsong
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Date: April 15, 2005 @ 10:05 AM
Yeah, I was chewing over that China censorship issue this morning. Our own country of course would be all aghast at tinpot dictatorships and we would have an all-out effort to slip in truth against evil propaganda efforts. Right? But our own censorship efforts against US citizens are the same as China.
The bad news is that intelligence analysts are watching this Chinese filtering effort with interest. Not in the sense of pushing democracy, but the fact that centarlized control indeed can be instituted.
I would normally be espousing the line "the efforts of the RIAA to legislate surveillance will not work. It will however cause damage to the architecture of the internet and cause economic ruin to our own economy, which other Third World nations will take advantage of and pass us by."
However this report that China is succeeding in filtering and monitoring induces great alarm that the internet can be routed around like that. |
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tomsong
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Date: April 15, 2005 @ 10:09 AM
Make no mistake, the expansion of FCC powers over cable is just an opening salvo. They fully intend to wrestle control of the internet. Assholes like Sensenbrenner are experiencing moral panic when they think about the internet.
It fits right into the DOJ and FBI plans to expand wiretap laws onto the WWW.
I watched the Patriot Act CSPAN hearings the other day. AG Gonzales said it right out loud: "You understand, Senator, that terrorist cells are having meetups in public libraries."
When pressed about some technical issue, Gonzales demurred:" Senator, I am not an expert on computers." |
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wet1
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Date: April 15, 2005 @ 5:39 PM
"You HAVE the on/off switch people, USE IT as YOU wish it to be used. DO NOT force your choices upon others."
I very much agree with this point but was not my point. My point being that the FCC has weighed in on raising fines. Fines on what is poorly defined as to what is or is not a problem. This is fact and if you are going to raise the punitive damage level there at some point has to be a line where it is either ok or not ok by the fact that a fine will be imposed for uncorrect actions. What ARE those uncorrect actions that trigger the levying of a fine? This has been one of those sticky, step around, no one wants to take the responciblilty for actions. At present they are trying to impose definate penalities for very undefinate actions. Those undefined actions are subject to the whim of the director and can very easily change overnight depending on which side of the bed the director got up on that morning. Would you consent to be ruled by such a set of laws when it comes to your livelyhood? |
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gdZiemann
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Date: April 16, 2005 @ 2:36 PM
"Those undefined actions are subject to the whim of the director and can very easily change overnight depending on which side of the bed the director got up on that morning. Would you consent to be ruled by such a set of laws when it comes to your livelihood?"
You'd better. This sounds like 95% of the people (aka bosses) I've worked for.
As for the censorship issue...
It's a natural cycle. It will pass.
If they take the Internet, we'll come up with something better. If they screw that up, we'll make something else.
And so on, and so on. |
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