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Boycott Movie Theaters
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/04/nyregion/04movie.html
Ads to Admit That if Showtime Is 8, Movie Time Will Be 8:10
By JAMES BARRON
Coming soon to a movie ad near you - if not to a space-squeezed marquee - the time that the movie starts. The time that the movie really starts, not the time that the trailers and the commercials start. Or words to that effect.
Loews Cineplex Entertainment says that next month it will begin publicizing true starting times, sort of.
John McCauley, the company's senior vice president for marketing, said the times in the company's newspaper and Web listings would still be the times when the trailers and commercials start. But the ads will also carry a note advising that, as Mr. McCauley put it yesterday, "the feature presentation starts 10 to 15 minutes after the posted show time."
Loews said it had heard from moviegoers annoyed by commercials that run before the trailers for soon-to-be-released films. Loews has heard from people who resent feeling that they are a captive audience for commercials that seem longer than ever. Loews has heard from busy moviegoers, so busy that they have to coordinate their moviegoing with busy babysitters, who want them home on schedule so they can catch the late show.
Loews, which has 11 theaters with 84 screens in New York City, will begin testing the notices next week in Connecticut, where it operates two theaters. The 198 theaters in New York City and the rest of the country will follow a few weeks later, once any kinks are smoothed out, Mr. McCauley said.
He said it was just a coincidence that Connecticut was the home of State Representative Andrew M. Fleischmann, a West Hartford Democrat who sponsored a bill requiring real times in listings. A similar bill was introduced in New York City Council by Councilwoman Gale A. Brewer of Manhattan.
Both legislators gave the Loews plan a thumbs-up and said other chains should follow suit. A call to a spokesman for the nation's largest, Regal Entertainment, was not returned.
Loews does not expect that the notices will change anyone's behavior. "We still think people enjoy coming early, getting their popcorn, finding their seats, talking amongst one another," Mr. McCauley said.
But some moviegoers at the Loews 34th Street, between Eighth and Ninth Avenues, said they have already changed their habits.
"Sometimes I come 10 to 15 minutes later to miss the commercials," said Angelique Anderson, 52, an artist who lives in Chelsea.
Now the challenge will be how close to cut it without ending up where the empty seats have always been when the movie starts, down front in the neck-craning section.
User Comments
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tomsong
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Date: May 4, 2005 @ 5:07 PM
The day that Low's started pre-screeing advertising, two lawsuits were filed in Chicago. But the inventor of the disgraceful practice is Philip Anschutz, owner of Regent Theaters. There is really no limit to the gouging of consumers. There was at one time a Theater Council that regulated the ratings system for trailers etc. but Anschutz installed his lawyer to control the board.
I suggest that you cease attending movie theaters.
But if you must, then I say, anything goes. Talk loudly on your cel phone, start fistfights, throw popcorn boxes that rip the $20,000 screen. That'll show 'em. |
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Azurre
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Date: May 4, 2005 @ 5:48 PM
I can't say I agree with the ideas that tom sends out. If you don't want to pay 20 dollars to see a movie (who pays 20 dollars?) then don't go. But there are some who want to see the movie, don't ruin it for them. I am not crazy about the ads either, but that doesn't mean I am going to take it out on others who are watching the movie. If you don't want to go to a movie, watch the DVD or VHS at home. Then feel free to throw things at the screen and talk during the movie.
I rarely go to the movies, not because of the price, but because there is always some moron on his cell phone or talking. Just because you want something cheaper or it has advertising doesn't intitle you to be a jerk. Remeber, there are people who work at these places, keep trashing the screen and such. Do you think that if effects the big whigs? No, they either downsize or up the price.
If you wish to boycott the movies, go right ahead. (I have made my home a theater so I think the only movie I will see is Starwars) But do not ruin it for those who paid their money to see the movie. Its their right to be able to enjoy it just like its your right not to go. |
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napstersghost
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Date: May 4, 2005 @ 5:48 PM
With the big piles of crap the Movie industry keeps churning out it's really been easy for me to boycott them. Who would take the time out of their day to sit in a dark theater for 2 hours to watch up-coming turds like The Dukes Of Hazzard? |
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compmore
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Date: May 4, 2005 @ 5:57 PM
Movies already are full of advertising. to have ads before a movie starts irritates me mainly because the same ads run over and over and over and over and over. then we see the trailers which usually has (maybe) one that I might be interested in, then comes the antipiracy message and finally the ten minute into. after watching the movie we get fifteen minutes of credits. to intice us to watch the credits, many production companies put in cut little scenes and bloopers throughout the running of the credits. can't tell you how long it took me to get my kids out of the theatre after one of those movies.
I'll stay at home and watch it on DVD or VHS where I can turn off the comercials or go get a beer or hit the fast forward button.
Remember when you went to the movies and saw two films or a cartoon before the show started. the only comercial you'd see is for the concession stand at intermission. |
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compmore
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Date: May 4, 2005 @ 6:00 PM
I'm not boycotting during star wars though, sorry. |
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wet1
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Date: May 4, 2005 @ 6:38 PM
"...where I can turn off the comercials..."
Sadly many of the movies you rent don't leave you that option. Instead through the wonders of programming the fast forward button forgets its function till after they have run.
The movies have long been a means of advertising. It isn't by chance that you can see the brand when an actor picks up a coke or pepsi. Nor is it chance when the actor gets into a well known brand of auto. Whether you can tell what brand it is depends on if the maker sprung for the money to support it being viewed in such a manner to tell what it is. It is just as easy to do closeups that don't show anything in detail of the vehicle as it is to do a pan back to show the maker emblem.
This loading the viewing time with ads should have some sort of benefit to the watcher. It is after all, his money and time they are infringing on. Here's an idea. Want a cheaper priced ticket? Those that come before a certain time get cheaper prices at the cost of having to see the ads. Those that don't want to see it pay full price. That would allow the theaters to use the ads, collect money on the ads and with the viewers permission. What could be more fair? |
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independentm...
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Date: May 4, 2005 @ 8:24 PM
If the movies were FREE to attend, then the ads would be acceptable. |
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godless-heathen
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Date: May 5, 2005 @ 1:44 AM
Screw em, we wait till it comes to the second run theatre and do the "dinner and a movie" option. Thus getting snacks and screwing the movie company out of money, all to the tune of about $14. And we still sneak in sugary things ;) Now if only they had sushi.
Plus, we get to wait until our friends come back and say "it sucked" before we spend cash. |
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goldenpi
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Date: May 5, 2005 @ 3:31 AM
With SMS messages, you dont even have to wait for them to come back. Thats going to weaken the stratagy of over-marketing a bad film to ensure a good opening weekend, before word-of-mouth tells people to avoid it. |
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JazonBladen
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Date: May 5, 2005 @ 12:15 PM
My major problem with movie theaters is the fact that the price of tickets is incredibly high, and the price for concessions are pure extortion. |
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mixerjaexx
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Date: May 5, 2005 @ 3:14 PM
"Why should we pay $20 for Date Night and sit through 30 minutes of advertising?" I agree fully. But how come, when I'm in a packed theater, and one of those mother 'freakin' MPAA ads come up... how come in a packed teather I'm the only person booing?? Everytime I see one of those ads, I always boo it, but I'm always the only one who does. (I do get lauphs though, atlest.) |
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compmore
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Date: May 5, 2005 @ 4:05 PM
maybe all the others are afraid Big Brother is watching. |
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Capt-n-Jack
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Date: May 5, 2005 @ 4:26 PM
Maybe all the others just don't have a clue!!! |
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Legirons
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Date: July 13, 2005 @ 10:02 PM
When will people learn? The only way the prices will go down is if people stop paying the extortion prices that the theatres are charging. Do not go to your favorite politician and make them richer, because that's all it will do. When you complain they go to the product supplier, and the product supplier pays them, and they are all happy. And we are still miserable about the prices. There was a case in Jax Florida where the people were upset about the cable TV prices being raised. Well the people went to their politicians, & the politicians said ok for right now the prices can not be raised above something like $60.00 a month. I do not have the exact figures, but the prices were something like $40.00 a month and the company wanted to go to like $45.00. Guess what the company did, they raised it to the prices that the local government told them they could go to. We are living in The United Socialist States of America people, so come on.............. |
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