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Harvey Danger is Dangerous!
Posted by Mike (Shmoo) on October 5, 2005 at 10:51 PM   (printer friendly)

Harvey Danger press release

Why we’re releasing our latest album for free on the Internet
In preparing to self-release our new album, we thought long and hard about how best to use the internet. Given our unusual history, and a long-held sense that the practice now being demonized by the music biz as “illegal” file sharing can be a friend to the independent musician, we have decided to embrace the indisputable fact of music in the 21st century, put our money where our mouth is, and make our record, Little By Little…, available for download via Bittorrent, and at our website. We’re not streaming, or offering 30-second song samples, or annoying you with digital rights management software; we’re putting up the whole record, for free, forever. Full stop. Please help yourself; if you like it, please share with friends.

Of course, the CD will also be for sale on the site, as well as in fine independent record stores across the country, in a deluxe package that includes a 30-minute bonus disc that serves as a companion piece to the record proper (retail price for the package is $11.99).

We embark on this experiment with both enthusiasm and curiosity—and, ok, maybe a twinge of anxiety. Why are we doing this? The short answer is simply that we want a lot of people to hear the record.

However, it’s important that people understand the free download concept isn’t a frivolous act. It’s a key part of our promotional campaign, along with radio and press promotion, live shows, and videos. It’s a bet that the resources of the Internet can make possible a new way for musicians to find their audience – and forge a meaningful artistic career built on support from cooperative, not adversarial, relationships.

We realize that digital files are the primary means by which a huge segment of the population is exposed to new music; we also believe that plenty of music lovers in the world will buy a record once they’ve heard it – whether via radio or computer.

We also believe there’s an inherent qualitative difference at work—not only between MP3s and CDs, but between clicking a mouse and finding a record on the shelves of a good record store. These experiences are not mutually exclusive – they’re interdependent facets of music fandom, and equally important considerations for a band in our position.

Even with the proliferation of websites and magazines paying attention to independent music these days, it remains difficult for bands—especially rock bands—to get exposure, regardless of how good they may be (or how successful they once were). Making the record freely downloadable removes the main barrier that exists between an artist and the world of potential listeners. And we do mean world; the web’s reach is everywhere.

Whether or not people will buy something they can get for free is obviously a big question, and there are facts and figures to support both sides of the argument. We think it’s not only possible, but likely. The more fundamental challenge is ensuring people have access to your work to begin with.

At the risk of sounding Pollyanna-ish, making records has never been about making money for this band. If the worst thing that happens is a whole bunch of people hear Little By Little… and no one buys it, we’ll know our experiment was costly. But that won’t make it a failure.

This is by no means a manifesto. We don’t pretend to be the first band to spin a variation of the shareware distribution model. We love record labels and record stores. We buy lots of CDs and are committed to supporting independent music. We’re not a bunch of fake Marxists. We’re just trying to be smart capitalists so we can sustain our lives as musicians. This is an experiment. We’ll let you know how it goes.

Meanwhile, please enjoy the record. Everything else is secondary.

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--from the Harvey Danger website.


User Comments (These do not necessarily reflect the beliefs of this site)

mroop  
Date: October 6, 2005 @ 12:02 AM
Harvey Danger is a one hit wonder that had a big hit in 1998 with "Flagpole Sitta" that was all over the radio and MTV. Chorus (in a high whiny voice):

I'm not sick but I'm not well
and I'm so hot cause I'm in hell
I'm not sick but I'm not well
and it's a sin to live so well

independentm...  
Date: October 6, 2005 @ 12:10 AM
I applaud them for "stepping out" from under the yoke and taking a chance like this to try and proove a point which I certainly hope gets made. I hope "Little By Little" does very well! If I like the downloadable music, (and most likely will, I am NOT hard to please) I'll buy a copy of the actual disc when my pockets are less empty!)

independentm...  
Date: October 6, 2005 @ 12:11 AM
...that is, ONLY if they are RIAA free now!

(Sorry, but I have principles!)

mroop  
Date: October 6, 2005 @ 12:35 AM
"I applaud them for "stepping out" from under the yoke"

More like getting dropped without a parachute.

independentm...  
Date: October 6, 2005 @ 12:41 AM
Glass half full or half empty?

mroop  
Date: October 6, 2005 @ 12:52 AM
Well, no. Either they willingly stepped away from major label ties or they were unceremoniously dumped like a bad habit. It wasn't a matter of choice for them to go indie. When they had the chance to take advantage of the payola machine they were happy to do so. Not that I am criticizing them for doing it.

independentm...  
Date: October 6, 2005 @ 1:20 AM
Not "back in the day"

(hell, even lil ol' me woulda jumped at the "chance" not even 10 years ago, and I had a vague but growing hate for the RIAA even then.)

But home recording technology and the Internet finally came along during this past decade or so.

What occured before to the aspiring music artist was in an entirely different world. The paradigm has shifted since then. We can't judge by the same set of rules anymore.

independentm...  
Date: October 6, 2005 @ 1:23 AM
We are now more FREE to ARTISTICALLY persuit our goals with (thankfully) less and less need for the "sell-out" to some evil monopolistic gate-keeper.

(It's what the whole WAR is about! Dinosaurs don't want to admit the comet has struck!)

independentm...  
Date: October 6, 2005 @ 1:24 AM
persuit = persue ?

Hey, Carla, where are ya?

ShadowMom  
Date: October 6, 2005 @ 7:53 AM
Pursue....:) I don't like to criticize. Yours truly, #7.

INeedAlover  
Date: October 6, 2005 @ 11:34 AM
AMG Entry on Harvey Danger

MajorTreat  
Date: October 7, 2005 @ 1:05 PM
"Whether or not people will buy something they can get for free is obviously a big question."

I think they will.

First it is not really free. Lossy format such as MP3, WMA, and Itune format does not sound at all like CD that have the potential to sound much better.

True if you listen to Hip Hop rock stuff and so on using a lot of electronic intruments you might not hear much difference particularly if you use on of these standard hearphone coming with players.

However if you listen to classical that use accoustic instruments even a CD is pefectible because of the low sampling rate particularly on an home stereo. If you have an High end system, lossy format is definitively not acceptable.

So I believe that they would be a market for high end sound produced with an higher resolution CD. But no! These gready stupid bastards are still discussing what type of copy protection they are going to use on new CDs format!

And no! Digital file will not replace physical media because it is a different products. We you read some very old publications contemporary of the appearance of the TV many observers predicted the end of the Radio. It did not happen. WHy? Try to watch TV while driving! Similarly some people have said that computers will replace books. It did not hapen why? Try to read a book on you computer screen or try to print 100s of pages on your Inkjet or laser printer and then try to carry the print out around!

CD or even DVD Audio are inexpensive to produce, They can be produced on the spot at the music store, They secure your contents no accidental erasing. (The quality is consistant althought not always good.) IT can be play anywhere on anything.

Granted you can download CD ISO image but it is big (700meg) and it's takes time. So if I can buy it for less than 7 boxes at the music store what do you think I am going to do?

Now What I would like is a super CD or a DVD audio. It is 7 time bigers than a CD and it's like downloading a movie. IF you offer me one of these uder 10 boxes I will definitively buy it instead of downloading it because downloading is a pain in the neck. (I known I am downloading and uploading days and night and bother the RIAA and the MPAA)

Finally I do believe that most people want to support the artists they like and they don't need to be coerced to do so.

MajorTreat  
Date: October 7, 2005 @ 1:06 PM
But If you are a label or a movie studio member of the RIAA/MPAA I WILL NEVER, I MEAN NEVER BUY ANY THING FROM YOU! YOU PIECE OF SHIT! So you have better to stop the law suits, refund the money you have stolen from the people and the artists and dissapear quietly into the night or start running now because we are comming for YOU PARASITES!

the-erm  
Date: October 7, 2005 @ 11:07 PM
This band rocks! Flagpol sitta was a 9 before I read this article. Now it's a 10!

fugazzi  
Date: October 10, 2005 @ 2:34 PM
Woot! I made a difference!

I think this is a great move for them; I hadn't, and probably wouldn't have given Harvey Danger a second thought but for this marketing move.

Good on you guys.