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RealNetworks rep to Linux: DRM or die!
RealNetworks rep to Linux: DRM or die!
4/10/2006 3:57:00 PM, by Anders Bylund
Ars Technica
A RealNetworks vice president voiced a few inflammatory opinions during LinuxWorld Boston last Tuesday. The RealNetworks rep in question, Jeff Ayars, said that Linux as a consumer platform would be dead unless DRM capabilities are built into the OS itself.
"The consequences of Linux not supporting DRM would be that fixed-purpose consumer electronics and Windows PCs would be the sole entertainment platforms available," Ayers said. "Linux would be further relegated to use in servers and business computers, since it would not be providing the multimedia technologies demanded by consumers."
Ayers has a few supporters in this issue from the Linux camp, as Novell, Linspire, and Red Hat spokespeople reportedly said they would be happy to add DRM to their distributions, but with some caveats. Novell, for example, is "currently in discussions with vendors who control proprietary formats" with the goal of supporting these formats in SuSE Linux. One can only surmise exactly which formats that would be, but recent rumblings from Redmond make it likely that Microsoft DRM solutions such as PlaysForSure could be among them. Holding your breath for Apple's FairPlay to be licensed to third parties like Novell could be bad for your health, though. Those are the two DRMs Linspire hope to use if given the chance.
It certainly makes commercial sense for Linux vendors to support technologies like FairPlay—just look at the huge installed user base for that particular DRM. But FairPlay didn't reach market dominance by accident to begin with. Georg Greve of the European arm of the FSF explains this rather succinctly:
"The Sony rootkit case made it quite clear why DRM is not accepted by consumers and why there is no successful business case for DRM. Apple iTunes allows people to burn their tracks on regular CDs, which can then be re-encoded and file-shared easily—so is better described as 'digital inconvenience management' only. eMusic.com offers clean audio tracks without any restrictions. No DRM platform comes close to either of these in popularity. So fortunately, it is up to the consumer to decide what the consumer market wants. And its answer is clear: It does not want DRM! The sooner we bury the foolish notion of putting each and every use of a computer under control of the media industry, the sooner we can start looking for real alternatives."
That sounds like a plausible explanation for at least part of the success of iTMS and the FairPlay DRM it relies on. It lets users do what they want, albeit forcing them to jump through some hoops to do it. Of course, the Apple faithful might prefer the superiority of the iPod user interface over such a pedestrian explanation, and marketing that seems to hit a nerve with America has something to do with it as well. But it's back to the familiar old hobby horse: give the customer the ability to play her content whenever, wherever, and however she wants to do it. A truly open, cross-platform and device-agnostic DRM stands a much better chance in the marketplace than, say, what Sony thought was a workable solution. But it's still just putting lipstick on the furry lobster.
This ties back to Sun's DReaM platform, which can probably only succeed if content distributors and gadget manufacturers adopt it in huge numbers, and even then faces shaky support from the OSS community. The proposed version 3 of the GPL is controversial because of its flat-out refusal to allow DRM technologies to use that license. Then again, some people just don't care: Linus Torvalds, for example, calls himself a coder, not a politician, and simply wants things to work, DRM or no DRM.
While it's a near-certainty that a DRM-free movie or music download service with major studio backing would become very popular, very quickly, it's equally probable that the files would be wildly pirated as well. But then again, it's already easy enough to find any song or film you need fairly quickly, if you just know where to look. Therefore, it seems much less certain that unprotected content would cause much harm to the pocketbooks of RIAA and MPAA members. And we've had unprotected media around us for years, like FM radio or good old cable TV, and all we need in order to make unauthorized copies of those broadcasts are cassette radios or VCRs. Just because content has gone digital shouldn't mean that we all are going to turn into the dirty, rotten pirates in need of heavy restraints that DRM proponents seem to assume that we are.
User Comments
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nitedreamerxp
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Date: April 11, 2006 @ 11:51 PM
Let me just say this, This realnetworks Rep. can take a flying leap. most of us and thats pretty close to all of us in the linux community as well as most all independent music sites such as Boycott-Riaa oppose (DRM) for it'll stunt the growth of the community as well as new technology, we can do just as good with Ogg Vorbis instead of MP3 and still download good quality music from lots of independent music sites that don't use (DRM).
DRM locked up big brother tech who needs it we don't. |
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mixerjaexx
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Date: April 12, 2006 @ 12:58 AM
It's pretty funny... I'm a strong motha' f*ckin' Windows supporter... and own and use one of those "entertainment platforms" he mentioned, a bad ass, custom built Windows Media Center 2005 (been upgrading my "tv pc" for years before the Media Center OS even existed).
But what's funny is that I have never ONCE downloaded or owned an MP3 that had DRM in it. My Media Center has my entire music collection, f*ckin' 5 GBs of music (mostly popular underground electronica) on it... and NONE of it has DRM on it. In face, you wanna' know where it all came from? In order: The original Napster, Morpheus & Win XM, Kazaa Lite, Shareaza.
Funny how people, in the industry, think that users of high-tech microsoft products (like my Media Center and Pocket PC) are all usin' DRM and not breakin' the laws... (and for the record, I HATE both Real networks and Quicktime... can't stand them) |
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AsiaMinor
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Date: April 12, 2006 @ 1:01 AM
And to quote some Slashdot posts loosely:
"Everyone else to RealNetworks:
Just die already!"
"Your software and your format are crap!"
1st one I found funny, 2nd one is kinda true. |
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Olde-Phart
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Date: April 12, 2006 @ 5:55 AM
RealNetworks software is the LAST choice of media player on my machine. Many times, I won't even bother with a video clip or sound file if it uses RealPlayer.
Besides, isn't DRM the antithesis of OSS ? |
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Hellbringer001
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Date: April 12, 2006 @ 8:19 PM
if it is in the rm or ram format, it *will mot* be loaded by my browser as i have blocked them. I find the RealMedia experience to be equal to that of a person who is being tortured for the gratification of some terrorist. |
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wespa92
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Date: April 12, 2006 @ 11:38 PM
hey mike or shmoo do u bynechance have a sister |
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anal-log-hole
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Date: April 13, 2006 @ 4:26 AM
http://docs.real.com/docs/company/executive_images/Ayars.jpg
I guess I don't have to say anything. |
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mixerjaexx
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Date: April 13, 2006 @ 5:53 AM
Olde-Phart "Many times, I won't even bother with a video clip or sound file if it uses RealPlayer." Hahaha... I'm the same exact way. |
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autodidact
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Date: April 13, 2006 @ 9:24 AM
recalling that old Billie Holiday song, autodidact's message to RealNetworks: I get along *without* you very well. |
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InsaneWayne
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Date: April 13, 2006 @ 9:29 AM
Realmedia and Adobe reader, dying a slow death.... I think only govmn't sites use em, I know I can't stand either product or format. Now that WinAmp plays DVDs how can I uninstall Windows Media Player?
I won't buy anything with DRM, part of why I won't join legal, corp-owned, DL sites. |
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IFeelFree
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Date: April 13, 2006 @ 12:23 PM
Real who? They have delusions of grandeur. For those who need to read RealPlayer format files, consider using "Real Alternative". Its a player reads RealMedia format files. |
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Jefrystube
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Date: April 13, 2006 @ 1:26 PM
Sure, go ahead, put DRM in Linux. It's open source so the DRM would have to be open source as well. Unless they really mean they want it to read DRM'd files. Either way, since Linux is open source, anything added by someone can be removed by someone else. Of course, I don't expect anyone at RealMedia to know anything about Linux. |
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PhantomGhost
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Date: April 13, 2006 @ 1:53 PM
realnetworks is a joke...their software is crap. Half the time it doesn't work. |
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independentm...
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Date: April 13, 2006 @ 11:19 PM
wespa92
Date: April 12, 2006 @ 11:38 PM
hey mike or shmoo do u bynechance have a sister
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No. Not unless you count my brother Ross who sometimes likes to dress in drag.
(lol)
Just kidding Ross.
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I hate Adobe too.
and .pdf files make me wince when I have to use them or link to them. |
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mixerjaexx
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Date: April 13, 2006 @ 11:50 PM
Yeah! I feel the same way about PDFs! I hate them (been using them since Windows 95) but everyone else I speak to loves them... so that's awesome that a lot of you feel the same way. (that made my minute) |
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OldCodger
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Date: April 14, 2006 @ 6:34 AM
I can recall becoming irritated with a .pdf file when I wanted to copy something from one, and it wouldn't let me. That was before I learned how to make .pdf files myself with the distiller.
So, yeah, I can see a person not liking them.
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wespa92
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Date: April 15, 2006 @ 1:40 PM
i could be ur brother ross*says in a tryful manly voice* |
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TheWitchingHour
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Date: April 16, 2006 @ 1:25 AM
DRM RM PDF are satans tools avoid at all cost! |
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ssokolow
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Date: April 21, 2006 @ 9:09 PM
Heh. I run Linux only and, aside from a copy of realplayer so MEncoder can use the codecs to transcode the files to something else, and KPDF with any optional support for reading DRMed files disabled, I'm free of everything mentioned here.
As soon as my exams are over, I'm going to work on getting the RM codecs into MPlayer without having RealPlayer installed. |
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TrueAudio
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Date: April 22, 2006 @ 6:13 PM
Botnets Versus the Military
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htiw/articles/20060421.aspx
April 21, 2006: Military computer users were reminded how vulnerable they were earlier this year, when a California man (Jeanson James Ancheta), pled guilty to breaking into a US Navy computers at China Lake. Ancheta wasn't after secrets, he was just turning PCs into zombies. Zombies are PCs that have been taken over, unbeknownst to their owners, by software secretly installed by hackers. The networks of zombie computers are the primary means to sending out spam, and breaking into additional weakly defended PCs. These botnets can also be used to launch DDOS (Distributed Denial of Service) attacks that can shut down a site with a flood of garbage messages, or pretending to be a web surfer, to generate advertising revenue illegally for clients. What was really scary about Ancheta was that he had over 40,000 zombie PCs under his control, and breaking into the navy PCs at China Lake was no big deal. The navy PCs were just another bunch of vulnerable computers available to any hacker that comes along. Another scary thing about Ancheta, is that he's the first American to be prosecuted for running a fleet of zombie PCs. Ancheta, a 20 year old employee of an Internet café, was pulling down over $2,000 a week from his botnet.
The military nailed him because, while there are always some vulnerable PCs among the million plus machines the Department of Defense uses, the Pentagon also has a lot of troops running around trying to fix security on unprotected machines. While your average home PC turned into a zombie might never be found out, military PCs eventually come under a lot more scrutiny.
Internet crooks like Ancheta usually don't take the time to find out who their zombies belong to, they just want to harness more machines for their criminal activities. Over 100,000 PCs a day are turned into zombies, and forming these botnets has become a very competitive business. Only the best led and organized botnet gangs are going to check the ownership of every PC they compromise. Most of the gangs will continue to give military PC security plenty of work. But the botnet gangs also continue to, unwittingly, keep the troops informed about the latest techniques of botnet management. In time of war, a botnet can be more useful than a squadron of F-22s.
To recap:
"Over 100,000 PCs a day are turned into zombies" GUESS what the fuck operating system their running? I can guarantee you it AINT Linux, or any Unix derviative, its fucking windows, there take and SHOVE THAT UP YOUR ASS RealNetworks VP.
You think your gonna DEMAND that people use insecure shit like Microsoft O/S's? HAHAHAHAHA, good fucking luck dumbass. I hope the INHERENT innumerable security flaws in Windows XP and the upcoming Vista help ENSURE that DRM fucking dies and rots in hell. Even the Department of Homeland security recognizes the risks, like with the Sony BMG rootkit DRM infecting windows, they, if anything will understand and SUPPORT more secure operating systems like Linux.
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