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The RIAA Seeks to Shutdown Napster
As a part of their lawsuit against Napster Inc., The Recording Industry Association of America has filed with U.S. District Judge Marilyn Hall Patel asking the federal court judge for a preliminary injunction to shut down Napster. The RIAA say they want to keep Napster from "facilitating or assisting others in, the copying, downloading, uploading, transmission or distribution of copyrighted musical works."
It is possible for Napster's central servers to be taken out of commission, but with other programs like Gnutella, there are no central servers to stop the transmission of files. This would mean that thousands and thousands of injunctions would be needed to stop worldwide file trading.
If you remember, back in December of 1999, the RIAA sued Napster for copyright infringement. They accused that Napster encouraged music piracy via the Internet through its software and computer servers.
User Comments
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Anonymous
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 8:39 AM
HA HA HA, the record industry may get napster, but they will have to learn, their archaic methods of greed won't stop the people from fighting back! |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 10:30 AM
Sorry, but someone needs to stop the RIAA. First, was the RIO player, now Napster. It seems that the RIAA donīt even understand how RIO or Napster works... Itīs a sad role, really... |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 11:01 AM
I think they legally can get napster only partially shut down. Only songs owned by RIAA members that do not authorize distribution and subject of the suit would be a subject of that action.
The big problem for the RIAA is the new technology that is now out that no one can control. People can share MP3s and it does not rely on a central database like napster. I guess the RIAA will try to cross that bridge when the get to it, but to cross it they will have to wait for a drawbridge that will never come down. |
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Pink
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 12:14 PM
I've been following this whole mess with the RIAA, they're using Napster as a scapegoat. They want to scare everyone else into and small clique, underground file transfer activity that no one common user will bother with. http://www.xsmp3.com is a huge supporter of napster and the exchange of information over the internet. We need a class action law suit against Metallica to send a message back to the RIAA. xsmp3.com has a great way of sending the message to the RIAA. CHeck it out. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 1:32 PM
First of all, the RIAA basically has no basis to make this lawsuit. There is a clause in the digital music act of 1999 that gives programs like napster the right to exist, since those programs arent' actually coping or distributing the files, just allowing it to happen. I think the RIAA is using this lawsuit simply to scare users and hopefully limit the use of napster. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 1:41 PM
You're talking about the DMCA - it will be revisited to give the RIAA more power. Plus, Napster already lost its bid to use "safe harbor" under the DMCA. So, this may go against Napster. It may be forced to shut down.
Who cares? It's time for Napster to take a dirt nap. It did everything wrong - the central server, the wooing of VCs, the hope for a profitable business model. Fuck them - Napster is just another scheme to use music to make money for people not directly related to music. Good bye and good riddance, Napster.
Gnutella rules!
It can't be shut down. The RIAA may huff and puff but they will be unable to close it down. Ba-hahahahahahaha!
Fuck Napster and the RIAA - and, while I am at it, fuck Michael Robertson of MP3.com, too, for selling Napster down the river.
Hoepfully, the river will rise up and swallow all of these bastards. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 3:11 PM
I dont care about this i just wanna know what the fuck it Gnutella |
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Chad
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 3:44 PM
Annon from Saturn.bbn.com, Gnutella is a file sharing application similar to Napster, because it allows transfering of files among users, but differant in the fact that there is no centeralized server involved with Gnutella.
Visit CyberTropix.com to read about more file sharing programs like Napster and Gnutella.
`Chad |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 3:50 PM
Fuck the RIAA |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 5:03 PM
heh ive said it before and ill say it again, this is just pure bull shit, those fools wanna shut down Napster when the friggin company has like billions of dollars to spare. |
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jark
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 5:32 PM
There will always be SX, CuteMX, iMesh and Gnutella in the event that Napster does get shutdown. So, IF they do, it is NOT the end of the world...it will just force people to use other applications.
--[ jark ]-- |
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xtreme
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 5:45 PM
The reason they go after Napster is because they have capital. It's standard procedure with big greedy companies (and people) when you're dealing with lawsuits. Taking the actual offenders to court would probably cause them to spend more money on lawyers, court fees, etc.. than they would be able to get out of them. They're a business and the main goal of a business is to make profit, if they can take Napster to court and make money off of them then they've achieved the goal at hand.
I don't use Napster enough to actually care what happens to it, I'm more concerned with the precedent it could set for future lawsuits filed against similiar companies. So, even if you could care less about Napster, even if you've never even used it, you should be concerned, and you should make some sort of effort to side with Napster if you feel that the RIAA is in the wrong here. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 5:48 PM
Once they shut down or cause the Napster to become a cash 4 subsrciption service, maybe some of you napster addicts will come over to gnutella. If a fraction of the napster user base would start to use gnutella the selection would increase 100 fold. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 13, 2000 @ 11:38 PM
Never mind napster. Their software is so terrible anyway. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 12:00 AM
napigator works awesome with bwap which is a program that works with it, they may shut main napster servers but not opennap! i saw it on my tvnews today they shutting down till courtcase is over. |
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JediGuy17
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 4:39 AM
CyberTropix, You need to relax and think about this one more time. Napster was always freeware, so how could a freeware software company make money off of their software? Hello...
I personally think Napster is a great program. I believe artists should embrace napster beause it allows their music to be heard by more people who can afford it. Also, i've heard some CD's with like 1 good song, and the rest were plain shitty. With me, i get a few songs from an album, and if i like them, i will go out and buy the album because i think the music i've heard is pretty good.
What i have to say to the RIAA is go bug someone else who's pirating cd's and selling them on the street for a better price then the thru the roof prices they sell them in the store for, and for god's sake..go fuck yourselves. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 8:56 AM
Gnutella is a great program, unfortunately, if you only have a 56k modem, you are pretty screwed. By the time it is done sucking up all the bandwidth in the search mode, you have nothing left to d/l with. That and the fact your ip address is broadcast to the person you are d/l'ing from. Kind of like this board sticking your ip all over the place. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 9:43 AM
the centralized big brother NAPSTER is going the way of the dinosaur...
the future belongs to bacteria-like stuff like GNUTELLA.
i know this sounds somewhat weird, but true.
speaking with his hands
Tres_XF
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 9:48 AM
Hey.. this is not fair. Why RIAA always wanted to screw up people. Why must them shut down the napster server. RIAA sucks... |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 10:00 AM
I think RIAA is a mothafuckin' organisation that wanted to fucked up with other people happy lifes. I think they should go to hell with their organisation and fuck up all their chronies.. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 11:51 AM
hahaha
Malaysian english is always funny to read
but i bet my Malaysian would be pretty funny to read
hehe |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 1:18 PM
Gnutella will be easy to deal with. It exposes it's users to virus attacks and allows anybody with a little knowledge to gain access to any computer using Gnutells.
Don't think RIAA is going to exploit that???
Gnutella has more security holes than swiss chese and windows 98 combined. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 2:01 PM
Where can I find gnutella? |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 3:45 PM
To the person that said Gnutella exposes its users to virus attacks I say this.....
MP3s are not executable and thus a user will never get a virus from a MP3.
Michael Butterfield
President, Music Global Network
http://musicglobalnetwork.com |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 4:00 PM
Hey Mr. Butterfield, granted, mp3 are not executable, but ever hear of a KAK worm? |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 4:24 PM
It is an Outlook/Win98 e-mail virus that takes advantage of microsofts scripting language right?
Please post a link to the article that relates to the virus and the impact it will have on Gnutella.
I have a feeling that virus software that everyone runs or a microsoft patch will protect against this anyway so so what.
Michael Butterfield
President, Music Global Network
http://musicglobalnetwork.com |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 4:33 PM
No what is a KAK worm?
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 4:52 PM
My short review of it is that it is exactly what I said above. It has a .HTA file extension not a .MP3 file extension.
Granted Gnutella allows you to download more than music files but if someone is looking to download MP3 I have no idea why they would download a HTA file.
Music is not in HTA files and I think most everyone knows that since the most popular term on the internet is MP3.
Michael Butterfield
President, Music Global Network
http://musicglobalnetwork.com |
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xtreme
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 5:53 PM
For the user that commented about Gnutella being tough for 56k users to use because it sucks up all of your bandwidth...
I have a 1.5mbps DSL connection and I have the same problem, pretty much sucks up all of your bandwidth that's why I don't use it that often. :)
Actually, none of the file-sharing applications really meet my needs so I still stick to public FTP servers and XDCC bots for the most part. This is the second generation of file-sharing programs, the third generation will come with (hopefully) much improved versions of SX, CuteMX, and Co., perhaps then we'll have really great file-sharing client/server system in place. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 6:11 PM
all those programs have security holes so doesnt napster. if a hacker wants to get you they will get you! plain and simple. no matter what program you are using if they can hack, they hack. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 6:18 PM
when you r on gnutella, try selecting only "1" connection to be maintained, this might free up bandwith. I have a cable connect and have downloaded mp3's at speeds as high as 80k a sec from gnutella. But have also had that slow .7k come up about 30 percent of the time |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 14, 2000 @ 9:36 PM
Oooops... ignore my above comment about .HTA file extensions in regard to that KAK worm. While it does create a file with a .HTA extention, the worm is a Visual Basic File (.VBS)
Just avoid downloading files with the .VBS extension
Michael Butterfield
Music Global Network
http://musicglobalnetwork.com |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 15, 2000 @ 5:54 AM
afaik the original kak is pretty irrelevant to gnutella, however there's another vbs worm that *does* target gnutella, in that copies itself to your gnutella shared dir, and names itself randomly along the lines of "new_britney_song.mp3.vbs", so people with view extensions turned off would (possibly) think it's an mp3. it doesn't really exploit gnutella as such, it's just tailored towards using gnutella to spread (and since it's a script virus it *does* need to be specifically run).
~~stu |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 16, 2000 @ 10:19 AM
I've always laughed at the poor saps who run script 'viruses' (trojans really). |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 16, 2000 @ 1:24 PM
? |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 16, 2000 @ 6:32 PM
greedy fuckin americans
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Anonymous
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Date: June 16, 2000 @ 8:14 PM
I reckon that the RIAA should shove their whining poofter court case up their arse and realise that just because something is good doesn't mean it has to be automatically shut down. And CD's are gonna go down the fuckin drain so why try to stop it.
PS - FUCK THE RIAA |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 17, 2000 @ 2:35 AM
I am a big fan of Gnutella however, I must admit, it is much easier to pick up Trojans and stuff in it, then I have seen in Napster. I whom am parnaoid about such stuff, run anti-viruses, as well as THE CLEANER a Trojan Cleaner, got caught one day, when I mistakenly clicked a file I hadnt checked, and when you have cable and are downloading dozens at a time, it can easily happen, I got stuck with the BACK ORIFICE, however, luckily I knew how to get rid of it, permanently, with a bit of work though, which would not be good for newbies, so, as much as I do love it, I STRESS, that one cannot get "sloppy" as I did, and if I can, anyone can!
Especially if you download files for games-and since, I have caught 2 other Troajans hiding, BUT, I love it and that is a small price to pay for the wonder of such a program.
And, I also agree that I would like to see more users come over to Gnutella, but,no matter what any one may think of Napster, it should be watched carefuully and supported by all of us.
I for one do think it will cost money one way or another to use it in the near future, such as a suscription venture, and I believe by doing so, it may be the only way to keep running.They will need to compromise with the RIAA. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 20, 2000 @ 6:16 AM
Surely Napster is not breaking any laws. If sharing music with the world and giving a person the ability to copy that music was a crime then they would have to close down all Radio Stations!
All Napster is doing is holding a list. The only people breaking the law are those people using the list to obtain copyrighted material.
Then again, if the music industry was to lower prices there would not be as much piracy around. |
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Anonymous
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Date: June 20, 2000 @ 12:06 PM
Correction:
Radio stations pay recording companies to play music.
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