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MP3 On Capitol Hill
Posted by jark on July 11, 2000 at 11:21 PM   (printer friendly)

Congress heard testimony today from a number of industry types regarding whether file-sharing technology, like Napster, is really as evil as the recording industry would like us to believe.

The main purpose behind the hearings was to help determine if file-sharing is outright theft, or a legitimate technology. This particular hearing was so popular that it brought the largest crowds for a hearing since Watergate. The Judiciary Committee did not take any actions but might choose to legislate on this matter sometime in the near future.

There were a great number of speakers that testified before Congress, both for and against the whole idea of file-sharing, and Napster in particular. Lars Ulrich, the self appointed spokeman for heavy metal rock group Metallica, was the first witness to testify. The basic jist of what he had to say boiled down to one statement: the artist should have the choice whether their creation is given away or sold.

In yet another misconception, one that many people have, that shows that Lars is unfamiliar with technology in general, and Napster specifically, he said, "In a 48-hour period where we monitored Napster, over 300,000 users made 1.4 million free downloads of Metallica's music. Napster hijacked our music without asking." If he had even the slightest clue as to how Napster works then he would understand that Napster did not hijack anything. We all know that Napster does not store any of the MP3's available on their servers, but merely acts as the conduit that allows Napster users to interact with each other, whether chatting, browsing files or transferring files.

Hank Barry, the CEO of Napster, testified and said that the company does not copy the MP3 files, but essentially acts as a way for people to sample music before buying it. Napster, in no way, shape or form, requires users to download the MP3 files available, but allows users to view the musical tastes of others users. "What 20 million people are doing is sharing music. They do it for previewing purposes, for sampling purposes and they're going out and buying CDs," Barry said.

There were a host of other witnesses at the hearings, including Jim Griffin, Fred Erlich and Gene Kan. I am going to set the record straight here, because MANY other news sources are giving foul information regarding Gene Kan. These other sources list him as being "one of the developers of the Gnutella computer music file transfer program." This is just NOT TRUE. This guy, like the other people that are part of the gnutella.wego.com website, did not have anything to do with the original program. All Gene did was write a Unix port of it...that is all. This, after the protocol was reverse engineered by someone else. Gnutella was a creation by Tom and Justin of Nullsoft.

Another of the witnesses found in Washington today was Hilary Rosen, the president of the Recording Industry Association of America. The RIAA, who has sued Diamond Multimedia, MP3.com, Napster and, most recently, MP3Board, all on MP3 related issues, was there to try and further it's cause against MP3's. Senator Orrin Hatch had an interesting question and answer period with her. It started out with the Senator asking Rosent, "''Can I make a copy of a CD that I buy and put it into a car?"

"The answer is yes," Hilary said, as she sat uncomfortably at the microphone awaiting the oncoming barrage of questions.

"Is it fair use to give the copy to my wife for her car? ''Is it fair use for me to rip a CD? Is it fair use if (a computer network) decides for efficiency reasons that one copy is sufficient to serve for storage, instead of keeping 200 separate copies, is that fair use?" Hatch asked. He even went on to ask if she thinks that making an audiocassette of a CD to give to a spouse constitutes fair use.

"None of these is fair use," Hilary argued, continuing on to say that artists tolerating people making copies of their works is merely "no good deed goes unpunished." Finally, she ended by saying that Senator Hatch is "leading me down the Napster path." What she ended up saying here is that it is not fair use for a spouse to make an audiocasette of a CD and give it to the other. Is that incredible or what?

It will be interesting to see what, if anything, comes out of these hearings. Do not look for anything to happen tomorrow, or next week, but nonetheless this made our legislature aware of a problem. Hopefully something can be done to rectify the recording industry's stranglehold on distribution. No matter what happens, file sharing will not die; do not expect Congress to just up and make file sharing illegal, because that cannot happen. Only time will tell.



User Comments (These do not necessarily reflect the beliefs of this site)

Frawgster  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 12:09 AM
I managed to squeeze seeing the hearings into my schedule and it seemed to me that the committee was somewhat leaning towards technology and frowning on those who were against Napster, Gnutella and file sharing in general. I realize that the committee was attempting to be unbiased, but I couldn't help but notice that they seemed to be on the side of file sharing. Maybe this is a good thing for us, the MP3 sharing community, or maybe I was just imagining things.

Also...when Hilary was asked that slew of questions by Mr. Hatch, I couldn't help but notice that she didn't seem to want to answer the questions, it took her quite a while to actually answer them...she just leisurely grinned at senator Hatch. I don't understand that...why couldn't she just answer the damn questions?

Now for the juvenile, pointless stab at Hilary Rosen..."Maybe if that ugly B**ch got laid she wouldn't be so uptight about this whole situation.

I couldn't help myself, I just had to throw that in there

-Frawg-

Frawgster  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 12:17 AM
Just another note...So lars doesn't think that it's his or the bands responsiblity to see to it that their music gets distributed on the Net huh? That's complete bullshit...to hell with lars and metallica...If they can't see that it is, in fact, their responsibility to get their music to the fans through whatever venue demanded by the fans, then screw em. I see that as direct evidence that lars and his crap group don't give a rat's ass about their fans.

P.S.--I didn't capitalize lars and metallica for a reason...their not worthy of my proper grammar.

-Frawg-


Anonymous  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 12:29 AM
Hmmm..what about libraries?? They loan out CD's. I guess that in the eyes of the RIAA that libraries violate federal copyright law as well! I guess that the RIAA will be suing them next!

My girlfriend just came up with a solution..Let's TOTALLY ban recorded music! Make ALL music illegal unless you listen to it at an approved RIAA listening center (that you have to pay admission to). Hmmm....Lars should LIKE this one!

Anonymous  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 1:54 AM
http://music.zdnet.com/features/metallicatestimony/

click there to read Lar's well-prepared testimony. i found it very interesting, and let's face it, he does make a few valid points (FYI - save the flames; i use napster every day.... ;-)

what's funny is that when you get to the end of the transcript, there's a link to the "Ultimate Napster Guide" that contains this ending line:

"Enjoy the magical world of MP3-sharing and take care not to break the law (too often.)"

hehehee i guess ZDNet's on our side?

((( beep )))

Anonymous  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 9:34 AM
So according to your logic,
[ Napster isn't responsible because they do not directly store MP3s ] if I get pissed off you stole my music and send someone else to kill you I should not be liable because I didn't do it myself.

Is there some kind of a rule that says you cannot write for D.Music if your IQ is higher than your age?

It must be because you guys are writing such kindergarten level retarded crap [ special ed kindergarten, not even regular ], have no uderstanding of the most fundamental things like simple logic and common sense.

Also for you info Napsters lawyer said people use it to preview music and then buy it.
On CNN Shawn Fanning said Napster is great because it will bring people FREE MUSIC, kind of contradicts what his lawyer is saying, doesn't it.

These guys are so retarded they can't even coordinate their lies.


Anonymous  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 10:04 AM
Funny thing about this whole situation. Napster has been around only a little wjile and they are able to make it to the Senate floor for hearings. On the other hand, we as consumers have been ripped off by the major record labels and the RIAA for years on price fixing. Where are all the Senate hearings on this subject? When big business wants their way, or when big corportions LOSE money, it is a Capitol offense. When millions of people are being ripped off, it takes years to even get a glimmer of a response. Maybe we should be bitching about our bribed Congressmen and asking how this reached the floor so fast.

pohsib  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 11:32 AM
Hell ya! That's why I wrote that article yesterday. The Federal TradeCommision busted the big 5, 2 months ago, but I don't rememer seeing ANY news coverage of it. Napster helps people steal from the big 5 and suddenly it's a Federal case...literally.

Anonymous  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 12:38 PM
The basic point is this: people like free stuff, and will opt for the freebie over paying every time. In the case of intellectual property, especially music, this is not good. Lars Ulrich's main point boils down to the fact that musicians earn a living, just like everyone else. He pointed out the "terms of use" on Napster's site, and its limitations on duplication of the software. I think that's a delicious irony.

Also, Mr. Barry commented that all Napster does is provide a vehicle for people to share files for sampling. How stupid do you have to be to believe that every person that downloads an mp3 actually deletes it, and then goes out and pays money for the same thing they just got had for free but got rid of?

Sometimes, technology developers and bleeding-edge users get so caught up in the novelty of new technology that they fail to look at the big picture and potential impact of the technology. That's obvious in mp3.com's offering tracks for sale without seeking license permission, as well as Gene Kan's bulldozing ramblings about the unstoppable force of technology.

We need to realize that technology itself is amoral. Only the developers and users of the technology can guide its course. While I agree that the Internet is the future of music delivery, we cannot treat it as an honor bar and just hope that everybody uses it responsibly.

Anonymous  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 2:09 PM
Someone with no logic posted: "So according to your logic,
[ Napster isn't responsible because they do not directly store MP3s ] if I get pissed off you stole my music and send someone else to kill you I should not be liable because I didn't do it myself."


YOU and the PERSON WHO DID IT would be responsible... But NOT the makers of the murder weapon, or the store where it was bought, or the makers of the vehicle they drove to the crime scene in, or the owners of the crime scene. Understand?


Anonymous  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 2:55 PM
Your logic is flawed.

Napster directly connects people to places and other people who can help them steal.

That is exactly the same as me pointing a way for the killer and saying : "there, go shoot him/her"

Gun makers do not point killers to their victims. Napster does.

The gun maker in this case would be a company that makes servers, totally irrelevant.


jark  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 4:01 PM
To Anon@flash.net:

Look, I am only going to tolerate your commenting so much longer. If you cannot make comments that are productive and stay on track, while not attempting to rip on the DM staff, then you will not be happy with the results. We care about the articles that we write, and the issues at hand.

Had you properly read the article then you would see that the information herein is not our thoughts, but mere transcripting of the hearings on Capitol Hill.

You appear to have contributions that are productive and make sense, but when you spout out things like "Is there some kind of a rule that says you cannot write for D.Music if your IQ is higher than your age?" then you have no place here. That is completely uncalled for and unfounded, especially seeing as you do not know who I am, other than that I am the author of this particular article. This has not been the first time that you have flamed us, but it will definitely be your last.


--[ jark ]--

Anonymous  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 6:44 PM
flash.net-
someone tells you bob smith is a good hitman so you use the phone book to locate bob smith's phone number. you call him up and arrange the deed. is the phone company now responsible also for pointing you?

Anonymous  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 9:01 PM
Well jark, Simon and the rest of the crew.

This is a public forum.

You are constantly flaming people like Lars Ulrich.
You should expect to gat crap thrown your way too. Especially WHEN YOU ARE SO OBVIOUSLY WRONG

I do not know how smart or dumb Lars is, but his main point is correct.

Artists should be in control, not Napster, not RIAA or anybody else.

To claim being a site that supports artists than flame people whose only point is that artists should not get screwed again in the new digital age is simply hypocritical. Whose side are you on??. Doesn't seem like you are on musicians' side.
Lars doesn't want file sharing to go away , he wants it regulated so artists retain control. What is wrong with that. [ you oppose regulation there, but you want to regulate less important things like words I write on this site ]

If your livelihood depended on music you'd be singing the same tune Lars is.

This way you and this site have more to gain if music goes completely free, so you are talking Napster's side.

I don't give a shit, you can erase my posts, but that will only look like cowardice and prove my point.

If you want to dish , you should be able to take it too. It goes with the territory.

Simon's flaming of Lars was particularly ridiculous and Simon just made himself look like a dumb ass. He didn't even understand what Lars was saying and just went on making ridiculous comments.

What it comes down to is as soon as you don't like someone's comments [ mine ] you start behaving just like RIAA and threathen censorship.

I'm wasting too much time here anyway.


Anonymous  
Date: July 12, 2000 @ 9:18 PM
By the way I don't know why you are so offended by the IQ comment.

Simon referred to me as the Idiot many times before.
I don't find it relevant.

I just want to get the point across. If it requires spicing things up, that's the way it is.

If it weren't for me and a couple of other guys this whole site would be:

Napster rulez, Metallica sucks and a few
Metallica rulez and Napster sucks posts.

jark  
Date: July 13, 2000 @ 6:54 AM
Why do you continually assume that I am not a musician? Why are there musicians that support Napster?


--[ jark ]--

Anonymous  
Date: July 13, 2000 @ 12:42 PM
The famous quote from [ I think John Cougar ]

"I would have signed for a fucking hamburger"

A lot of musicians don't realize that Napster and the whole free music deal could screw them much worse than RIAA ever did.

If they want to support Napster and give music away for free , that is fine with me.

All I am saying is that those who can not afford to give music away, or choose not to should also be respected, and if you don't like them you show so BY NOT BUYING THEIR MUSIC, NOT BY STEALING IT.

jark  
Date: July 13, 2000 @ 4:47 PM
I would like some facts and figures that would refute the testimony that Napster, and the like, stand to help artists more than they currently lose with the labels. From where I am sitting, it appears that you are only concerned with the 2% of the artists that actually turn a POSITIVE financial figure with their record label and are completely closing the door on the other 98% that are signed, as well as those independent artists that are not even signed yet, that are trying to get noticed.


--[ jark ]--

pressf8  
Date: July 13, 2000 @ 9:16 PM
Flash: "Simon's flaming of Lars was particularly ridiculous and Simon just made himself look like a dumb ass. He didn't even understand what Lars was saying and just went on making ridiculous comments. "

You know what? Simon studies this stuff for hours a day (as do myself, Jark, etc.). Do you really think we are all completely ignorant and blind to "the truth" ?

What you seem to assume (and by some weird coincidence, you take the exact same stance as lars) is that downloading music from Napster is going to ruin artists. I know I'm not alone when I say I've bought CDs of bands I've found through napster. If someone tells me "Hey, I heard this really cool guy called Elwood" I can look him up on Napster and see what he's all about. The radio doesn't play him, and CDNOW has 30 second samples of 3 of his songs--Now there's no way I'm going to go spend $16 on something that I haven't heard. Would you buy a car without test driving it? Would you buy a painting if you only got to look at one little corner of it? Of course not--but the artist of that painting doesn't scream "Copyright Infringement!" when you look at a picture of the painting to preview it--you know why? Because he wants you to buy it and knows you're not going to if you don't know what it looks like!! How is music different? If I see a picture of it and don't like it, is that really stealing? We've just been trained like rats to take what the radio has to offer and nothing more--and we didn't have a choice. Now we have a choice, and we're taking advantage of it. The people who are trying to stop us are the people who want to control us and what we listen to. I am no stranger to what's going on--I just have a much better understanding of it--I don't buy everything "the man" tells me.

Brian
http://www.screwmetallica.org/ (and I mean that!)