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The Generational Divide in Copyright Morality
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December 20, 2007, 12:30 pm
The Generational Divide in Copyright Morality
I’ve been doing a good deal of speaking recently. And in one of my talks, I tell an anecdote about a lesson I learned from my own readers.
It was early in 2005, and a little hackware program called PyMusique was making the rounds of the Internet. PyMusique was written for one reason only: to strip the copy protection off of songs from the iTunes music store.
The program’s existence had triggered an online controversy about the pros, cons and implications of copy protection. But to me, there wasn’t much gray area. “To me, it’s obvious that PyMusique is designed to facilitate illegal song-swapping online,” I wrote. And therefore, it’s wrong to use it.
Readers fired back with an amazingly intelligent array of counterexamples: situations where duplicating a CD or DVD may be illegal, but isn’t necessarily *wrong.* They led me down a garden path of exceptions, proving that what seemed so black-and-white to me is a spectrum of grays.
I was so impressed that I incorporated their examples into a little demonstration in this particular talk. I tell the audience: “I’m going to describe some scenarios to you. Raise your hand if you think what I’m describing is wrong.”
Then I lead them down the same garden path:
“I borrow a CD from the library. Who thinks that’s wrong?” (No hands go up.)
“I own a certain CD, but it got scratched. So I borrow the same CD from the library and rip it to my computer.” (A couple of hands.)
“I have 2,000 vinyl records. So I borrow some of the same albums on CD from the library and rip those.”
“I buy a DVD. But I’m worried about its longevity; I have a three-year-old. So I make a safety copy.”
With each question, more hands go up; more people think what I’m describing is wrong.
Then I try another tack:
“I record a movie off of HBO using my DVD burner. Who thinks that’s wrong?” (No hands go up. Of course not; time-shifting is not only morally O.K., it’s actually legal.)
“I *meant* to record an HBO movie, but my recorder malfunctioned. But my buddy recorded it. Can I copy his DVD?” (A few hands.)
“I meant to record an HBO movie, but my recorder malfunctioned and I don’t have a buddy who recorded it. So I rent the movie from Blockbuster and copy that.” (More hands.)
And so on.
The exercise is intended, of course, to illustrate how many shades of wrongness there are, and how many different opinions. Almost always, there’s a lot of murmuring, raised eyebrows and chuckling.
Recently, however, I spoke at a college. It was the first time I’d ever addressed an audience of 100 percent young people. And the demonstration bombed.
In an auditorium of 500, no matter how far my questions went down that garden path, maybe two hands went up. I just could not find a spot on the spectrum that would trigger these kids’ morality alarm. They listened to each example, looking at me like I was nuts.
Finally, with mock exasperation, I said, “O.K., let’s try one that’s a little less complicated: You want a movie or an album. You don’t want to pay for it. So you download it.”
There it was: the bald-faced, worst-case example, without any nuance or mitigating factors whatsoever.
“Who thinks that might be wrong?”
Two hands out of 500.
Now, maybe there was some peer pressure involved; nobody wants to look like a goody-goody.
Maybe all this is obvious to you, and maybe you could have predicted it. But to see this vivid demonstration of the generational divide, in person, blew me away.
I don’t pretend to know what the solution to the file-sharing issue is. (Although I’m increasingly convinced that copy protection isn’t it.)
I do know, though, that the TV, movie and record companies’ problems have only just begun. Right now, the customers who can’t even *see* why file sharing might be wrong are still young. But 10, 20, 30 years from now, that crowd will be *everybody*. What will happen then?
--David Pogue
User Comments
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kc8gpd
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Date: December 25, 2007 @ 11:02 PM
another PC turd ;-)
Personally as far as i'm concerned the entertainment industry is having it shoved up their @#$%$ after years of doing it to us and they don't like it.
Gee you don't think all these copyright extensions blew up in their face, do ya?
How about the price fixing?
and the grand daddy of them all. Mr. "Slick" Billy Boy Gates. The biggest software pirate of the seventies that built his empire on piracy has a hairball about people pirating M$ Crap.
Hmmm.
Things that make you wonder.
Merry Christmas and Happy new Year.
Get drunk and have a RIAA bon fire using their crap as fire fuel. |
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CopyrightLaw...
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Date: December 26, 2007 @ 1:04 AM
"What will happen then?"
Hopefully most of these young people will have enough common sense and will fight to pass laws making most of what was put into this example as LEGAL... or at LEAST non-actionable by any copyrightholder.
Likely many will be lured away by the corporations of America and all the money and greed they provide.
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Olde-Phart
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Date: December 26, 2007 @ 9:49 AM
It's just another manifestation of the entitlement mentality that pervades our society.
"You don't have the money to buy it, but you want it? No big deal; steal it, then."
I'm not saying the RIAA is right. I disagree with the things they do and what they stand for. They shove all this media in our faces 24/7, creating some warped demand for a substandard "product" and then they feign mock surprise when people start taking whatever they want.
This is the tip of the iceberg; people want all the benefits and rewards, but too few feel that they should have to put in the work to get it. |
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Laer
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Date: December 26, 2007 @ 12:12 PM
Olde-Phart, I have some counterpoints:
1. Many of the examples he provided were taken for granted as 'okay' during the days of home tape deck. The record industry turned a blind eye to many of them back then, and some of them were even codified into law during those days.
2. For the longest time, people were forced to buy a $20 CD simply because the song they wanted couldn't be purchased as a single, most notably after the death of the 45. This complaint transcends all age groups, especially those old enough to remember the 45. It's no secret that the album-only sales format was a great money maker for the recording industry. People's ability to get only the singles they want is a major blow to this sales scheme; to wit, the labels' bitching about the iTunes music store, where people indeed do pay for their music! |
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gdZiemann
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Date: December 26, 2007 @ 4:28 PM
"It's just another manifestation of the entitlement mentality that pervades our society."
People feel entitled to free music because radio has been providing it for 85 years. Free music is everywhere. It's in the elevator, in the restaurants, in the mall, in your car and on the Internet.
There's a line in a Tom Petty song that goes something like: "The guys upstairs just wanna see how much you'll pay for what used to be free."
There is an entitlement problem, but it has nothing to do with the kids. |
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pessimist
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Date: December 26, 2007 @ 4:45 PM
As usual:
George may not always have the last word, but he can be depended upon for having the best word.
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captdunsel
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Date: December 26, 2007 @ 7:30 PM
I can't see what the argument is here. the riaa had their day in court and they won. the justice system that they paid for has served them well so the matter is closed.
Now it is simply a matter of us against them and the consumer is never right. there is no cooperation, there is no grey area. If you are listening to or watching anything that is a product of the current entertainment industry you must pay them for it. and continue to pay them for it no matter how many times they re-release, re-package or re-run it.
Wanna listen to the latest remake of a 70's era hit? it's gonna cost you. wanna watch football and see the patriots run at history? better get ready to pay through the nose. That is the system they wanted and they paid for and we let them have it without a fight.
it's not so bad really, they go in through your nose and remove a small bit of your brain that you probably won't even miss anyway. They even put it in a jar and let you keep it for an additional $2500. It sure makes it easier to listen to ashlee simpson this way. |
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independentm...
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Date: December 26, 2007 @ 8:11 PM
"Now it is simply a matter of us against them and the consumer is never right. there is no cooperation, there is no grey area. If you are listening to or watching anything that is a product of the current entertainment industry you must pay them for it. and continue to pay them for it no matter how many times they re-release, re-package or re-run it."
Even still that is not %100 "legal schmegaly" correct captdunsel ...EVEN THO the NEWS would have us think so (at the behest of the RIAA/enemy.)
Folks, you'd be suprised at what is still legal to do in this country VS what this country THINKS is illegal.
(But my saying THAT is NOT a good sign! It means we are likely to loose MORE rights if folks keep sitting on their asses and letting the RIAA/corporate interests have their way with OUR government reps.) |
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Olde-Phart
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Date: December 27, 2007 @ 8:35 AM
George's point is well taken. It's been free for so long, the RIAA let it be so, and now they want to wring every last dime out of the "product". They’ve even manipulated the law to allow them to take money from people without ever selling them a single piece of merchandise.
Ultimately , though, the legal climate says it's illegal to share the music without paying for it. Pogue made some observations about the current generation, and he's made some good points. It may or may not be limited to this generation; I said that we see it in society, as a whole.
I see it especially in the 20-somethings that I teach. They have this attitude that they should have it just because they want it. They don't want to obey the rules or follow instructions to get there. They feel that they are entitled to it simply because they exist. They're shocked when they fail a test, even though it's quite obvious they weren't prepared for it. They didn't put in the work, they shouldn't get the reward.
I think the RIAA should fall into the pit and burn in hell, but it's illegal to steal movies and music. The definition of "steal" is quite debatable, but it's obvious the kids he referenced in the article don't see anything wrong with taking what they want without paying for it. That was his point. IF what he wrote is true. It might just be a shill piece for the RIAA. I can tell you, however, that I see that type of behavior at various levels in that age group. Of course, it’s not limited solely to college kids, but that’s the focus of the article we are discussing.
There are a lot of things that go along with the article, but that wasn't his focus. Fair use, fair price, value for the money are all issues as well. Nothing the RIAA is “selling” right now is worth it, but I’m not willing to steal it just because I don’t like the price.
I’ve said it just like everyone else on this site. Don’t download it, don’t buy it, don’t share it. Let them choke on it. I can’t remember the last time I bought a CD for full price. I like to support my local used music merchant. Works for me.
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Laer
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Date: December 27, 2007 @ 12:05 PM
"...IF what he wrote is true. It might just be a shill piece for the RIAA. I can tell you, however, that I see that type of behavior at various levels in that age group. Of course, it’s not limited solely to college kids, but that’s the focus of the article we are discussing."
This is an interesting angle; what if it is just an RIAA shill-piece? What would be the motive for pushing this article's viewpoint? Perhaps a divide-and-conquer approach to handling public reaction, forged along generational lines. After all, an angry public with a unified viewpoint is harder to brainwa...er...persuade than several smaller "publics" (PR-speak). A successful boycott depends upon the boycotters' sticking to the *reason* for the boycott as one unified group. Surely the emerging generation has its share of faults, but for our purposes here....
"I’ve said it just like everyone else on this site. Don’t download it, don’t buy it, don’t share it. Let them choke on it."
That's the spirit! ;) |
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gdZiemann
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Date: December 27, 2007 @ 8:28 PM
Any musician who thinks listening to their music for free is theft deserves the resulting obscurity. |
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Olde-Phart
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Date: December 28, 2007 @ 8:40 AM
George, I 'm not disagreeing with you, but don't you want at least a little monetary reward for your efforts? I don't think it's unreasonable to pay an artist for his work.
If an artists wants 5 bucks for a CD and you just take it, isn't that theft? The stuff over on Dmusic and CDbaby is pretty reasonably priced, but I think the artists would be a little put off if everybody said, "Screw that, I'll just take it for free. I want it, but I refuse to pay for it"
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TeddyKGB813
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Date: December 28, 2007 @ 6:15 PM
I think the American music business model is moving more and more towards the Chinese model. Piracy is rampant over there, so rampant that even the record stores sell pirated product. CD's are seen as a marketing tool over there, not an income stream in themselves. Artists there make their money from concerts, merchandise, and personal appearances. I think in the next 10 to 15 years, the American music landscape will look very similar. |
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gdZiemann
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Date: December 28, 2007 @ 8:09 PM
Okay, I'll answer this from my point of view, but I'm an old fart, too, so my answer is completely different from what a 24-year-old musician might say.
don't you want at least a little monetary reward for your efforts?
Absolutely. It would be nice to make a few bucks for the effort. I might even be inclined to spend more time at it. However, even if I had no intention of making newer material available, it wouldn't stop my recording process because it's something I have to do.
I waited three decades for the ability to make my own recordings. A couple years later, broadband allowed almost free digital distribution. For the first time in history, I could create a song, pop it on the Internet and the whole world could find it.
I look at my stats all the time to see what people are listening to. It makes me happy to see people downloading my music. It doesn't make me feel like anyone is stealing from me. It makes me feel like people are interested in what I'm doing.
I have a bigger audience now than I ever had before, even during the good years on the road. It's insignificant in the Big Picture, but (this is where the old fart part comes in) every new song or recording that I or my friends can put together and get online increases our chances that we will create a few tunes that are good enough for people to keep listening to them after we're gone.
If an artists wants 5 bucks for a CD and you just take it, isn't that theft?
Only if you take a physical copy, because there are time and materials involved in creating it.
I want five bucks for my last CD (Hayden's Wall). In the last two years, the only copies I've sold have been to Carl, my guitar player.
In that same time period, we gave away more than 15,000 individual downloads/streams of songs from the CD, almost half of my downloads each year.
But no one bought a CD, although we did earn a whopping $3.90 from AmieStreet.
Have we lost anything? Has anyone stolen anything from us? Or have we grown our audience by another 1,000 or so without leaving the freakin' living room, which is good, since I'm tired of hauling shit around, putting it together, taking it apart, hauling it somewhere else, putting it together...
My philosophy is that I'll always play for free. But if you want me to haul gear around, that's gonna cost you.
Which kind of takes us back to the entitlement issue. I don't feel entitled to your money, even if you download my music. I don't even like the "tip jar" thing because it seems tacky, like we're begging. If you want to drop us a buck or two, that's great and we'd appreciate it, but it's infinitely more important to get into your ears than your wallet.
Because what if we wrote 2008's greatest song or catchiest tune, but no one heard it because we insisted on getting paid first? Get in enough ears and your music can live almost forever. That's priceless. |
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Olde-Phart
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Date: December 29, 2007 @ 1:11 AM
George, that's some great feedback. I can see where you're coming from. I think it goes along with what Teddy said about exposure and growing an audience.
I know it's a personal preference, but I wouldn't view the tip jar as begging. I see it more as a way to give a little in appreciation for the performance and the work the artists put into it.
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Twarrior
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Date: January 6, 2008 @ 2:05 PM
Lets travel back in time more than 85 years, shall we? Music has existed for far longer than this. Even Beethoven made money from people seeing him play in concert. There were no records, no cds and no Internet. He did not throw a fit when someone else played his music in concert -- in fact -- the mindset of the day was popularity, notoriety and reputation. If others played your music it was cause for celebration, not civil suits.
Humanity has always been competitive but people have always known that wealth and power have come through social status -- not per record or cd sold. No rights had to be licensed for someone else to play a third party song. You made your claim to fame based on how fame is rightfully obtained -- that you are skilled enough to do something good enough to earn it. Yes, wise use of a skill allowing you to earn your living -- just as it has always been with every industry. From Jesus' father the Nazarine Carpenter to Jim's Housing Development Contractors (hypothetical company name).
The RIAA however, do not feel that skill is required nor is talent required. Only to know enough people to retain control and to have enough money to fabricate boy bands to sell as thoughtlessly as that terrible cologne you hate getting every Christmas from that uncreative friend or relative.
Music has always been free and money has always been made from having skills. Apparently the RIAA seems to think that this logic isn't too logical anymore. That fame and fortune can be made through the mass manufacturing of crap.
-Dave |
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