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The SonicPrint Digital Audio ID System
Posted by Mike Darrah on September 14, 2000 at 11:06 PM   (printer friendly)

SonicAgent.com has released a new digital audio identification system entitled SonicPrint. The software acts much like CDDB for digital audio files, quickly allowing identification of music being played through the Internet.

The interesting twist with SonicPrint is that it tracks the unique identifier it utilizes to identify a specific piece of audio being played, is the audio signal itself, or the "soundprint" of the audio file being played.

It seems SonicAgent claims to have compiled a vast database of copyright protected music, and stating now that it is finally prepared to offer SonicPrint as a solid and complete digital audio tracking solution.

Specifically targeting online software server solutions such as online file exchange programs and websites, SonicAgent aims to bring a turnkey software solution to the recording industry with SonicPrint. If what they claim they are capable of doing is true, may very well be in a good position to do so. The most interesting thing about this solution is that it works without relying on forcing new audio file format standards on a community that will not accept them, and rebuke them. Unlike digital watermarks, such as SDMI provides, a SonicPrint of a digital audio file, once recorded, does not require any modification of the file which the audio signal is originating from to serve its function.

One thing important to note about the SonicPrint audio identification process is that it is client / server related. Meaning if you are playing your music in a program such as Winamp, that program needs to be setup to work with SonicPrint in order for the tracking solution to work. Obviously this is not a feature that we find in any common audio playing application currently. This means the tracking of existing critical mass of digital audio music listeners is not something that is logically achievable at this time. It could however logically achieve this if implemented as a standard, something that almost certainly would present a serious privacy concern to some.

SonicAgent is offering the use if co-located black-boxes which they can connect to their existing mainframe database to anyone seriously interesting in digital audio identification, along with licensing of the software for those whom wish to compile their own database of SoundPrints.

Interesting to say the least. Check out a screen shot of the software in action.

What do you think of the idea behind SonicPrint? Does it stand a chance to make a difference to the future of the digital music distribution process or is it simply just another interesting idea? Let us know in the guided discussion thread.


User Comments (These do not necessarily reflect the beliefs of this site)

pressf8  
Date: September 14, 2000 @ 11:25 PM
so... what exactly does this do for us? You cant declare someone listening to 'x' copyrighted mp3 is doing something illegal--there are numerous fair uses for mp3s. So all this does is act like big brother watching what you listen to--who wants that?

Say Winamp picks up on it (what's their motivation to?)--just use a player that doesn't! I'm not seeing how this is going to change anything...

Brian

-X-  
Date: September 15, 2000 @ 12:05 AM
Imagine if you have the digital rights to a live recording which no one else does.. If you choose to utilize this solution in your digital distribution model, you will be able to identify how many people are listening to you music, and who they are. A quick SQL look up in your database of legally licensed people could reveal some interesting and potentially scary results for some..

pressf8  
Date: September 15, 2000 @ 8:09 AM
I'm starting to think that this is going too far--I want to buy my music annonymously. Who knows--in 20 years it might not be kosher with our paranoid gov't to buy RATM...

Brian

SonicAgent  
Date: September 15, 2000 @ 4:25 PM
There are lots of uses for this... How many songs do you download that are improperly labeled? What if you rip a CD while you happen to be offline? You get a list of files with names like "Track 01.mp3". Wouldn't it be nice to get good meta-data on these and the other tracks in your music collection?

And have you ever searched for music by the band "Live" or by the band "The The"? There are lots of other examples of the problem I'm getting at, but these two illustrate the point. If the music on Scour, Napster, etc. were indexed more nicely, based not on filename but on audio content, it would be much easier to find what you want… and things like truncations and "bombs" can be filtered out by detecting them in the audio data.

A lot of people love peer-to-peer file exchanges. They are a great new development, but they’re having a really hard time in court. If the free file exchanges are sued into oblivion, wouldn't it be nice to have a paid alternative, one that rewards the artists but doesn't cost you very much?

These are the kinds of uses that we see for SoundPrint. If someone wants to license it from us, and makes a product that goes overboard on the tracking and profiling, then people won't use it. Simple enough. So there's really not much of a threat here, but there are a lot of possibilities...

-X-  
Date: September 15, 2000 @ 5:10 PM
I would not have given you guys the attention I did not if I did not think the idea has some serious potential to it.

Thank you for participating in the discussion, it is greatly appreciated.

-X-

pressf8  
Date: September 15, 2000 @ 5:25 PM
I can see some good uses for the technology as far as a CDDA-like database goes, but I see some really serious privacy issues here with something that logs everything you listen to/rip/download. Most people wont be aware of it and therefore wont be saying anything (the average joe) but I must admit I have hesitations about embracing this. What we don't need on the internet is more monitoring--we've got enough of that already. Maybe if there were measures taken to insure anonymity, but that doesn't really do anything for the record companies which would be the ones paying for such development--or am I seeing this wrong?

Brian

Anonymous  
Date: September 22, 2000 @ 7:51 AM
This Sound Print crap is nothing but another lame attempt at invasion of privacy. The people that are developing this technology are apparently interested in only one thing: making more money for the people that already have too much...namely the morons that are already taking too much away from the artists...record companies and publishing companies.....it would be in our best interest not to support or embrace this technology....we should condemn it before it gets off the ground, before we are enslaved in yet another way by world governments.