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Our tax dollars at work for the RIAA
Posted by O.J. on April 25, 2002 at 1:07 PM   (printer friendly)

RIAA wants tax dollars to combat piracy

By Gwendolyn Mariano
Special to ZDNet News
April 25, 2002, 5:00 AM PT


The Recording Industry Association of America is calling for additional federal funding to combat the ongoing wave of piracy, saying that the number of arrests and convictions for copyright crimes has skyrocketed over the course of a year.

In a congressional hearing Tuesday before a subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee, the RIAA requested additional funds for federal anti-piracy law enforcement efforts and is pushing for a renewed agenda on protecting intellectual property. The RIAA, which did not request a specific amount, said the additional funds are needed for investigations and cases.

Specifically, the RIAA is requesting the funds be used to create additional squads or units for a program called Computer Hacking and Intellectual Property, which is part of the Justice Department's initiative to fight cybercrime. Although the RIAA applauded the creation of CHIP, it said it is concerned that CHIP's main focus will be on computer hacking and not on intellectual property. The RIAA requested in its testimony that these CHIP units make intellectual property a top priority.

"Piracy is not a private offense," Hilary Rosen, president of the RIAA, said in a statement. "It hurts everyone by diminishing the incentive to invest in the creation of music. It should not, therefore, be viewed as a crime only against authors, performers, composers, musicians, record companies, distributors, wholesalers and retailers, but against each of us."

The hearing comes against a backdrop of frustration over the ongoing problem of piracy within the music industry. The RIAA said the number of arrests and indictments for music piracy are up 113 percent from 2000 to 2001; meanwhile, guilty pleas and convictions were up 203 percent and sight seizures up 170 percent for that same period. The RIAA added that 2.8 million unauthorized CD-R (CD- recordable) discs were seized in 2001, compared to 1.6 million in 2000.

The RIAA also emphasized in the hearing that piracy levels have hurt the record industry financially. The RIAA said the sale of pirated recordings exceeds $4.2 billion worldwide, not including losses due to online piracy. The RIAA added that the music industry loses more than $1 billion per year from the illegal activities conducted in the world's four leading pirate marketplaces--Brazil, China, Russia and Mexico.

Piracy schemes go well beyond the record industry, permeating the software and film industry as well. Last week, in one of the most notable recent copyright-infringement actions, federal authorities arrested 27 people who were allegedly involved in a piracy ring involving Microsoft software.

In addition, the Motion Picture Association of America said it helped the New York police department shut down an alleged unlicensed DVD-copying operation based out of a Bronx apartment. U.S. law enforcement officials called the raid the first bust of its kind targeting DVD counterfeiting in the country. Moreover, a few weeks ago, a California resident pleaded guilty to copyright-infringement charges, involving more than 4,500 bootlegged videotapes.

Jack Valenti, president of the MPAA, also testified in Tuesday's hearing, calling on Congress to support enforcement of anti-piracy efforts. Valenti said that while the MPAA member companies are going forward with online video-on-demand initiatives, despite the low penetration of broadband access and the absence of a proven market, Congress should "send a clear message of deterrence that theft is theft, whether conducted online or off."

"If you can't protect what you own, you don't own anything," Valenti said in a statement.

The MPAA estimates that the film industry loses about $3 billion to non-Internet piracy per year. Much of that has come in the form of illegally copied videos, DVDs and video discs in Asia.

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smelv1n  
Date: April 25, 2002 @ 3:16 PM
HAH!

I'd rather fund PBS then these fucks!

mtbatol  
Date: April 25, 2002 @ 5:20 PM
lmao :lol:, yeah I hear ya smel
"If you can't protect what you own, you don't own anything," Hmmmm.. and what was that other court ruling that asked these bozo's to show proof of owning "rights" to alot of this "online pirated music?" :lol::lol::lol:

weaponzero  
Date: April 25, 2002 @ 5:21 PM
lame

Cryxan  
Date: April 25, 2002 @ 5:29 PM
Well I guess we could refuse to pay taxes. This is, after all, meant to be a government "of the people, by the people," and as citizens, we have the right to change it if it becomes necessary. We don't have to fund it if we disagre.

Smelv1n, what's wrong with PBS?

mtbatol  
Date: April 25, 2002 @ 5:33 PM
hahahaha!! :lol: ooh wait, you weren't serious about PBS were you cryxan? :O

milladrive  
Date: April 25, 2002 @ 5:37 PM
it has its moments. I've seen a lotta cool stuff on pbs. and don't even think of sayin' mr. rogers, big bird, zoom, and the electric company weren't cool.

milladrive  
Date: April 25, 2002 @ 5:38 PM
btw, i refuse to comment on the riaa because it bores me already. they're a bunch of insightless freaks who have no business in positions of authority. (i guess that's a response, heh)

mtbatol  
Date: April 25, 2002 @ 5:41 PM
yeah well sesame street is koo and all cept for Big Bird's friend Snuffelufflegus the elephant, he looks like a junkie lookin for a hit :O
And don't get me started about Bert and Ernie.. just don't look right :O
And didn't Mr Rodgers stop making his show or somethin? :(

milladrive  
Date: April 25, 2002 @ 5:51 PM
yeah, but he'd been doin' kids-- I mean, his show long enuff. ..and i'm w/ya on the snuffleupugus. i never could quite get used to it. ...and it's Ernie and Bert, not Bert and Ernie. Let's keep it straight, shall we? After all, we know they probably couldn't. :p

smelv1n  
Date: April 25, 2002 @ 6:09 PM
snuffleupagus was my favorite!!!!

that hairy elephant was my favorite character of them all! he'd just sit their eating cabbage, but he was big and stuff, and yea...actually, i don't remember why i liked him so much, but my parents didn't mind because then i started eating my cabbage, hehe

oliandjake  
Date: April 25, 2002 @ 6:55 PM
the riaa want our tax dollars so we discuss cabbage eating puppets!
do we really think they might not win?

backmann  
Date: April 25, 2002 @ 9:55 PM
*cough* your taxes go to the riaa. I don't know where my taxes go here :argentina: probably to some corrupt polititian's pocket.

Cryxan  
Date: April 26, 2002 @ 12:30 AM
I was referring to the radio more than TV. At every place I've worked, I usually have NPR on 8 hours a day.

Not a Sesame Street fan. I hear Bert was sent by some evil supreme being to destroy the world...oh wait now I'm getting my stories mixed up :P

DiscoProJoe  
Date: April 26, 2002 @ 2:37 AM
Boycotting the government...what a concept! I love it!

TheWitchingHour  
Date: April 26, 2002 @ 4:56 AM
To what depths will these idiots go to alienate their customers even further.


thumbtack  
Date: April 26, 2002 @ 5:02 AM
Rumour has the RIAA has even suggested a logo for the unit. it can be found here: http://www.boycott-riaa.com/images/RIAA_SS_3.jpg

Your-Mom  
Date: April 26, 2002 @ 7:27 AM
The RIAA can suck my ass!! Oh and remember Oscar the grouch's friend the little psychodelic colored worm? Man, that Sesame Street has some pretty strange shiznit goin' on!

Remye  
Date: April 26, 2002 @ 7:31 AM
Hrmm..
"Valenti said that while the MPAA member companies are going forward with online video-on-demand initiatives, despite the low penetration of broadband access and the absence of a proven market, Congress should "send a clear message of deterrence that theft is theft, whether conducted online or off.""... so what they are saying is that since they can't make anyone buy their shit on demand.. they want the gov't to give them MY tax dollars to make up the difference? Did I read into that right?
and don't flame snuffy.. poor misguided soul...*smirk*.. OSCAR RULES!!!!


creativetim  
Date: April 26, 2002 @ 10:34 AM
nod

Your-Mom  
Date: April 26, 2002 @ 11:13 AM
snuffeluffagas was a cocaine fiend. Years of rehab and counseling didn't help either. I saw it on True Hollywood Stories...I swear! Poor hairy bastard.

creativetim  
Date: April 26, 2002 @ 11:57 AM
cool pic thumbtack!!

Remye  
Date: April 27, 2002 @ 12:44 AM
Hey tack, can we get that on shirts? or if it's copyrighted or some shit, who's got rights? I think that'd look pretty damn cool in red ref tape on the back of my motor helmet.

thumbtack  
Date: April 27, 2002 @ 12:49 AM
Give me a few minutes.....only pproblem is the t-shirts I can get are white....

thumbtack  
Date: April 27, 2002 @ 1:04 AM
Hey Remye! Here ya go....http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=riaa_ss

W-B  
Date: April 27, 2002 @ 7:06 AM
So this is what it's come to: using copyright law as a machete (or any other Mafia weapon of choice) to trample on consumers' rights (which they think are mere privileges, as has been outlined before), throw the First Amendment into the proverbial incinerator, bring this country down to the level of a Third World banana republic viz technological development, etc. I'm sure the Founding Fathers must be turning in their graves over this.

Never mind that much of the movies out today are of the "Scorpion King" variety (i.e. all flash and no substance, here today - gone tomorrow, et al). Never mind also that the record business's overreliance on empty-headed bubblegum pop has been mirroring their late-'70's overemphasis on disco. Never mind that much of TV has degenerated into what some individuals (such as Sid Caesar and the late Steve Allen) have compared to the old "bread and circuses" of Roman Empire days. In the paranoid minds of these bigwigs, if nobody's watching or buying their worthless garbage, it must be because of them pesky "illegal free downloads." Puh-leeze. For this they're engaging in this McCarthyesque, racial-profiling-style anti-consumer lynch mob-cum-witch hunt? Sad, but true.

The real trick to combatting piracy, of course, is to go after those who DO commit piracy -- NOT to lump the average consumer with some crime ring(s). But try to convince the alphabet-soup lobbying groups of that.

crzyferrero  
Date: April 27, 2002 @ 7:30 AM
Hey I am the Bert dude, and yes I snuffed Ernies little winny ass out he he he...just kiddin.
As far as the RIAA doing its bid to control and manipulate the tax paying public does the RIAA feel threatened? I think it sucks they hafta resort to this and punish the tax paying base for their already bad business practice anyway.
Come on this is just getting desperate...

What will they think of next...

Thanks for reading.

milladrive  
Date: April 27, 2002 @ 8:10 AM
W-B, that's very well said. I just wish I weren't so drained of energy w/the whole subject. We can rant all we want, but really, who's listening? Hilary? Jack? They may even be listeining, but talkin' sense to them is like crashin' our cars into brick walls. I'll be very surprised if their stances budge even a little. :'

TheWitchingHour  
Date: April 27, 2002 @ 9:57 AM
Good point Milla whom is listening..hopefully as this site grows the consumer will listen and cut off the cash supply that bribes our politicians.
Perhaps inform us whom is accepting the bribes so they can be voted out of office. ;) .


smelv1n  
Date: April 27, 2002 @ 11:14 AM
tack: 99dogs.com you can get black shirts

Remye  
Date: April 28, 2002 @ 4:59 AM
my hero *longing sigh*

uaintstoppindis  
Date: April 28, 2002 @ 8:51 AM
the RIAA takes it in the butt :D

uaintstoppindis  
Date: April 28, 2002 @ 8:55 AM
:D the RIAA take it in the butt!! :D

:D :D

:D

ingenious  
Date: April 28, 2002 @ 12:30 PM
Nice articulation, W-B.. You sound like me on adderal (or my AP english teacher on any given day). I was never really into any of the PBS stuff but I grew up addicted to Nickelodeon. What ever happened to the good olde shows like Salute your Shorts, Roundhouse, Hey Dude, etc? I think that the RIAA's loss of profits is great, I hope they go bankrupt! Music will never die, it is a part of society, it can't be controlled solely by money. If anything, a crash of music sales would encourage artists to make GOOD music that people WILL pay for because they admire the musicians, and eliminate the pointless distribution of 9/10 garbage cd's.

mikey14  
Date: April 28, 2002 @ 3:46 PM
I'm glad to hear this. Maybe with our tax dollars they can actually make a difference, instead of their useless attempts which haven't done anything.

mtbatol  
Date: April 29, 2002 @ 12:02 AM
Maybe they can make a difference with our tax dollars?? HAHAHAHAHA:lol:!!!! Sure!! Of course they will :) Before hand they just had influenced the creation & support of SDMI technology supporting that damn.. errr i mean "great" DMCA law which have produced $hitty.. err i mean great portable devices that have more restrictions then a pu$$y-whipped geek handcuffed in a dungeon. Oh and lets not forget their influence with the CBDTPA bill which despite common sense peeking through from common pc users still have a serious chance on becoming one of the most retarded laws passed since Jim Crow itself :mad:. Ehhh, thats my Oscar the Grouch rant for this news thread :).

milladrive  
Date: April 29, 2002 @ 7:21 AM
Ya wanna know what really hurts? The fact that Salute Your Shorts, Roundhouse, and Hey Dude are now thought of nostalgically. How long till we get treated to the reunion show for the cast of Barney? :':p

backmann  
Date: April 29, 2002 @ 12:06 PM
Sorry... you can get arrested there for downloading mp3s?????

mattmana1  
Date: April 29, 2002 @ 1:11 PM
To give the RIAA any of our tax dollars to fight piracy, or for any other reason would be obscene! Someone who buys CDs at flea markets and swap meets that are almost certainly bootlegs for 2 or 3 dollars will not spend $13.99 at the mall. Someone who will spend $13.99 at a mall won't take flea market CDs even for free. To make it worse, the RIAA isn't going after bootleg dealers at flea markets or their suppliers, just file traders, who are exercising their fair use rights. The recording industry has ripped off artists since it's beginnings. They are pirates themselves. www.dontbuycds.org mirrored at dontbuycds.uncoveror.com

mtekk  
Date: April 29, 2002 @ 1:41 PM
why are they getting money??

GarrettEvans  
Date: May 1, 2002 @ 5:02 PM
If I just buy used CD's, am I safe from supporting the RIAA?

deathtrap  
Date: May 1, 2002 @ 11:22 PM
I just have one question for these guys, "Have they ever in their lives borrowed a record, tape or CD from any of their friends and made a copy onto tape or CD?" Do you think that any of them could honestly say no? Then aren't they part of the problem that they are trying to solve?

ELDuce  
Date: May 2, 2002 @ 1:00 PM
These sorry bunch of political rejects need to get the sticks out of thier asses. Don't these fucking people have enough money. They should be flipping the bill for this not the US public. Oh shit that would mean they would need to not get a big fat payraise or cut down on the power lunchs or that phat new Mercedes this year. If the government gives them a dime they should all be taken out and shot.

ELDuce  
Date: May 2, 2002 @ 1:01 PM
Backmann jsut 1 question.

"YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS WITH THAT QUESTION?"



Remye  
Date: May 5, 2002 @ 12:32 AM
On a separate but related issue.. has anyone heard of this proposed "space Tax"?? Supposed to be like a tax on anything dealing with science FICTION..hrmm.. maybe Hilary could get some of that money.. she's obviously not from planet earth

iH8RIAA  
Date: May 11, 2002 @ 10:01 AM
looks like i've got something for mr.x

parkaboy  
Date: May 18, 2002 @ 6:07 PM
Hey, PBS plays some damn good british shows sometimes. You know, Red Dwarf, Are You Being Served, and the like. Too bad they lost their contract for Monty Python and Mr Bean. Oh well. Plus, right now they're playing old Ed Sullivan episodes. A couple of weeks they showed the Rolling Stones (They performed 19th Nervous Breakdown and Satisfaction), and this week its The Doors. I'm excited.

Back to the subject of this article, I'm glad that I will never pay anything beyond sales tax unless it starts going towards things that I find worthwhile. And of course the RIAA isn't on there. And I'm proud that I practice the time-honored art of shoplifting.