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Webcasters slapped with Finalized Fee Structure
The U.S. Copyright Office and the Librarian of Congress have officially announced their decision on the ever-controversial royalty rates for webcasting music online.
The official fee's come in at a rate of .07 cents per song which is streamed live online and a lower rate of .02 cents per stream for simulcasted and / or archived broadcasts. There is also an additional fee to keep copies of the music on the web server of 8.8 percent of the entire royalty fee, which is tacked on top of the total cost of the royalty rates. :(
While the rates are half of that which the Copyright Arbitration Royalty Panel (CARP) recommended initially in Febuary, the finalized official fee structure still may force a vast majority of independent webcasters offline. With a additional requirement of payment of back royalties all the way through 1998, webcasters now have only 45 days to come up with the payment for webcasting already done, putting many in a unrealistic position of trying to come up with absurd amounts of money for a service which they may not have been charging for to begin with.
For example, Live365 now faces fees of upwards of $1.5 million from previous webcasts, and will have to come up with the money to pay the "instant fine" from webcastings since 1998 now that the US Copyright Office has set the royalty structure. On top of that, the company will have to figure out how it can afford to pay $200,000 per month in order to break even with it's webcasting service.
Noncommercial broadcasters are not exempt from the royalty madness as many thought they would be initially. A noncommercial broadcaster now is required to purchase a $500 license to simply legally broadcast music for free and face almost certain fee's from service providers such as Live365 for the use of their service (which now costs Live365 quite a bit to simply technically provide).
Cary Sherman, president of the Recording Industry Association of America stated that the RIAA is not trying to put independent webcasters out of business, but with the now finalized payment structure, many smaller and independent webcasters are scratching their heads trying to figure out just how the hell they can afford to simply continue to do that which they have been doing and provide a service to the online community at large.
Leaders of the American Federation of Musicians (AFM) and the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (AFTRA) have expressed serious concern that the webcasting rate issued by the Librarian of Congress on June 20, 2002 fails to compensate recording artists fairly for the use of their work on the Internet. Additionally, AFM and AFTRA points out how the decision will force artists to subsidize the webcasting operations of major corporations like AOL and Viacom, giving more control over the distribution of music back to the corporate monsters controlling the traditional music industry.
While the fee's have been finalized, some still hope that additional lobbying on the part of the community may help to reverse these rates and level the playing field for broadcasting music online. Jonathan Potter, the head of webcasting trade organization Digital Media Association stated his organization will be working to push for a even lower royalty rate then the finalized fee's announced yesterday.
The next 45 days may mark the end of webcasting online as we know it ( especially considering the back logged fee's accumulated since 1998 ), so enjoy it while you can. The power of digital distribution of music is seeming falling back into the hands of the corporate conglomorates who can afford to be in the business. As copyright owners, the record labels will of course receive a portion of the fee's collected which will allow them to recoup these high fee's for webcasting music to the digital community.
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Date: June 21, 2002 @ 9:14 AM
Want more info on this? Try these links kiddies.. (thanks to Geoff Goodfellow who provided these links to the PHO mailing list)
Internet Radio Criticizes Rate on Royalties
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/21/technology/21WEB.html
Copyright Office Sets Royalty Rates For Songs Played on Internet Radio
http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB1024608353756633200,00.html
(Paid subscription required.)
Curtains for Webcasts?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20412-2002Jun20.html
Webcasters' Fees Slashed in Half
http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,53377,00.html
Copyright Office Publishes Final Webcasting Rates
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/20/2143244.shtml
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milladrive
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Date: June 21, 2002 @ 9:29 AM
This is total and utter sickness. It doesn't help the artists and it doesn't help the fans. And it hurts nonprofit orgs for the sake of the music industry's money-grubbing control whores. If it isn't rendered unconstitutional by some High Court, then I'll be even more convinced that they're all in cahoots.
I'm so sickened by this. : puke:
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spikeshotgirl
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Date: June 21, 2002 @ 10:04 AM
I'm knew at all this gnutella stuff, but I get the gist that this is a bad thing- as for "Enjoy it while it lasts" is there anywhere that we can go to get music before it all gets closed up... or whatever? This is really disappointing. |
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thumbtack
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Date: June 21, 2002 @ 10:19 AM
The one thing that strikes me is that nobody is happy with the rates...The RIAA isn't, the webcasters aren't, the AFM and AFTRA aren't, and I can assure you that the consumers won't be either when these non-interactive music websites start charging customers for access to basically the same thing as radio. In effect what will happen is that the only people who will be able to afford to pay the rates are huge corporations such as Clear Channel. This doesn't serve the public at all. Of course the music industry pays the terrestial broadcasters to play their music, so a certain amount of the cost will be offset. the effects will be:
1. Small webcaster will go away taking with them the smaller less known acts that the majors decide not to "pay for play" to the stations.
2. Clear Channel will extend its near monopoly over music broadcast to the internet.
3. The RIAA labels now exert even more control over what the consumer hears.
Remember, this is only on the non interactive services covered under the stautory licence, and doesn't cover interactive services. Under this the artist gets 50% paid directly to them, but under the interactive licenses ( which must be negeotiated on a case by case basis) the artist only gets the same percentage as they do on their recording contract, which is usually in the range of 5-15%. In addition the RIAA makes the interactive licenses so expensive, that no one can afford them without giving up a stake in the company to the labels. I've spoke with people who have been in these sessions and there is no negeotiation just a demand for 50-75% of the entire site income (advertising etc) as well as the money raised by music subscriptions, which would be a death knell to interactive services, the few which exist. This is the primary reason that there are so few "legal" services that offer the consumers what they want. |
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W-B
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Date: June 21, 2002 @ 10:38 AM
The RIAA, as is well known, does not care one iota about the consumer, the artist, or the small "mom and pop" entrepreneur who's in something "for the love of it." All they care about, first and foremost, are: A) themselves, B) money, and C) power - both for themselves and for the multinational corporations to whose interests they are 1000% beholden. It has been their whole aim all along to kill off Internet radio entirely, and to ensure that the only music the public gets to hear is exactly what the RIAA, a.k.a. RIP (Recording Industry Politburo) wants them to hear. In short, the consumer will have ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY nowhere else to turn by the time Cary Sherman and his cohorts are through. (Interesting that the new RIAA president has the same surname as a certain Civil War general who oversaw the burning of Atlanta, given that what the RIAA has accomplished with respect to the issue of webcasting is every bit as destructive.)
This is yet another example of a megabehemoth looking to suck every last drop of blood out of John and Jane Q. Public for its own invidious benefit, and shows that there is essentially no difference between the predatory, selfish, unscrupulous entity that is the RIAA and such firms as Enron. |
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captainclorox
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Date: June 21, 2002 @ 11:27 AM
Nice going, Mr. Sherman. You've shot yourself in the foot again and don't even realize it. In the words of Calvin: "A good compromise leaves everybody mad." |
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RyanS
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Date: June 21, 2002 @ 11:37 AM
Yup, another major hit to the thrive of the net. I'm with milla, and saying this make me sick :puke: |
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Mediamaster
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Date: June 21, 2002 @ 2:07 PM
#@%&^^$*&%&^(&**&^!!!!!!!
This makes me angry. The RIAA has been controling what music we listen to since the begining of time. I hate it, and so do many others. Then, when we finally get a chance, a breath of real music, conngress can't do enough to put it back in the hands of the blood sucking suits. We need to fight back. The internet is the biggest thing to happen to music. Don't let the RIAA take it. Call or write your senator or conngressman and tell them how you feel. All people 18 or over, see where your representitives stand on subjects before you vote for them. With enough help we can beat the RIAA and take back what belongs to us.
Hail The Internet!!
Hail Mp3!!!
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princess-angry
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Date: June 21, 2002 @ 6:11 PM
it;s liek having to pay to speak!!!
hail the internet!
hail Mp3!!!
aiwa rocks da house!!! |
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mtbatol
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Date: June 21, 2002 @ 9:18 PM
Damn, this sucks. Many of the people broadcasting music are doing it for free for cryin out loud!!! Ohh I see, get pissy and mad at them since it's DIGITAL!!! "OMG how our forefathers are turning in their grave now that their fears of computer robot hackers are stealing our music and giving it out through internet playing... IT'S COMPLETE EVIL I TELL YOU!!! WE GOTTA AT LEAST FINE THEM!!" I mean seriously this must be the mentality of these greedy, paranoid idiots whose agenda is so covert that they only give out some bs reasoning as to why they do what they do to justify anything that the general educated public disagrees with. They're idiots and slowly more and more people are startin to realize this. I just hope that their efforts such as the first wave of cd protection from their lab rats Sony takes a nose dive in the elephant poop ditch. Ok I'm done now :P |
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chileverde1
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Date: June 21, 2002 @ 11:53 PM
Well if soon i cant share music by internet then i will get together with my friends and there friends and just share our whole cd collections whith each other and there will be no royalties for anybody just the royalty of having a big ass harddrive and nice mp3 player to carry around for home,car,and around my waist and everyone else should do the same and a good cd burning to you all!!!!!!!!!!!!
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goldenpi
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Date: June 22, 2002 @ 3:39 AM
Do these affect webcasters who dont stream music? I know all common sense says it shouldn't, and from what I know of copyright law they shouldn't have to pay either, but this is the RIAA messing with the law here, so common sense doesn't apply.
What about webcasters who only stream independant artists with their permission? |
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weaponzero
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Date: June 22, 2002 @ 11:43 AM
this is horrible news
i don't know how they plan on governing this.. |
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skywalker1174
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Date: June 22, 2002 @ 1:03 PM
It doesn't make any sense to do any of this!! Why can we record music off of radio stations for free. We can borrow music from friends and copy it onto tape or cd for free. What's up with that!! They just want to make money on every little opportunity that they can!!!! |
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smelv1n
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Date: June 22, 2002 @ 2:58 PM
meh,
it's not the end of the world. |
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CoyoteRed
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Date: June 22, 2002 @ 9:32 PM
What the industry is afraid of is the internet changing how things are done.
Imagine how easy it would be for a new group to bypass a label. Go to a studio, record your song, and create a MP3. Hire a webmaster and put the song on a website. Email the link to webcasters to listen. Get people hooked on the songs. Tour.
Where's the label in the above scenerio? Nowhere, but on their ass in the snow, that's where. They are running shitless.
The artists need to understand times are a-changing as well. They want to protect their CD revenue, too, because otherwise they'd have to get off their lazy asses and actually tour.
The age of charging for the song is, frankly, over. No amount of crying, scheming, belly aching, or whining can change that. Touring and merchandising is where the money is to be made now.
RIAA, et al, quitcher bitchin' and get over it. |
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thumbtack
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Date: June 22, 2002 @ 10:45 PM
Slapped was a good choice of words, perhaps "beaten" would have been even better. |
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GranolaBar
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Date: June 22, 2002 @ 11:35 PM
***THINK ABOUT IT***
Don't you get it? How is the government gonna locate you if you stream music from your dialup connection? For those broadband-blessed types, just use a proxy, or several of them, and stream your music from there. How can the government enforce this if there are literally tens of thousands of people broadcasting music online all over the world? It's just like trying to stop Gnutella, they can't because there's no central point, it's all created by individual users all over the world. |
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buzlip01
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Date: June 23, 2002 @ 10:15 AM
good point granola, im literally about to take down my filesharing network and use gnutellas protocol. *throws out the old opennap servers* |
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wpsnts
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Date: June 23, 2002 @ 12:09 PM
I have used web casts to discover new music and to be able to listen to stations that I cannot get over the air. I especially like it when I travel because I am able to listen to whatever I want to where ever I am. I don't listen to mainstream radio and I never will.
I spend $200 plus or minus a month on CDs because of what I hear on web radio. I also go to several shows a month because of what I hear.
The recording industry makes money off of myself and others because when we hear something we like we go buy it. Perhaps I am wrong (and please say so if I am) but I see radio as a form of free advertisment for music corporations. As far as I know they don't pay to have their music broadcast. Yet they are eager to have me hear new stuff so that I will go out and buy it. If web radio is forced out then I won't hear the music which means I won't buy it!!!
I am the first to admit that copying music and trading it with others is illegal and hurts artists, recording companies and ultimatly us because less money is generated to create new stuff. But the only way I can see to retaliate is by hitting the big corporations in the pocket book. Friends and I are just going to get together and start sharing our music. My collection is 1200 plus albums. Some friends have a lot less and a couple have many more than I. If the deal goes through we have all agreed to stop buying and just trade amongst ourselves. Yes I know doing that is illegal.
I would be willing to subscribe to my favorite stations to help support the fees they are being forced to pay. The problem is that we all have to be willing to pay so that the fee is resonable and affordable. Would you all seriously consider paying to listen to the radio?
I have written to my gov't reps and actually got responses from them all (probably from a staff member). They all were cordial and say that my voice is important. My views would be taken into consideration and they are working to bring my concern to their coleagues. Well thats all fine and dandy but the the lobbyists and corporations are supporting them with huge sums of money to get what they want.
I really don't want to just give up and crawl under a rock. WHAT CAN WE ALL DO TO STOP THIS?!?!?!?!
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goldenpi
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Date: June 23, 2002 @ 12:18 PM
Forget about anonymous broadcasting. Iv been looking into it. Its not possible if they want to find you. Its easy enough to bounce your stream off proxys and relayers all over the net, but if the RIAA wants to find you they will. Its easy enough to monitor a relayer and see where all the traffics coming from. If the RIAA cant be bothered finding you then your not worth finding, so whats the point? You have to be public enough to advertise, or noone listens. |
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GranolaBar
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Date: June 23, 2002 @ 12:25 PM
You have a good point there, goldenpi, but what about the napster/Metallica thing? Remember how they said they were going to track down users who shared Metallica songs? Did they actually catch anyone? Besides, a strong argument against this whole thing is that you can hear those same songs on the radio somewhere in the world for FREE. Remember, they can't police the whole US, much less the rest of the world. |
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kaxman
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Date: June 23, 2002 @ 8:03 PM
I'm a mere ccna with little knowledge of how multicasting actually works, but wouldn't the use of that type of broadcast make it sort of impossible to tell exactly WHERE the stream was going, seeing as how it just sort of...well...goes, and everyone who wants a copy, grabs a copy? Its connectionless...so you get no acknowledgment of receipt, hence, you have no idea who or how many people are listening, right? |
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goldenpi
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Date: June 24, 2002 @ 11:30 AM
TCP connections must be traceable because each packet sends an acknowledgement. Relayers will just buy you time.
I expect they did catch a few metallica sharers, just because they could, but not enough to get noticed. Tracing a few napster users is one thing, plenty more where they came from, but with internet radio there will be fewer people to set the lawyers on, so they can set more lawyers on each one. It would move from the ISP letter to a summons and demand for a few hundred thousand in royalties.
We have all boycott the RIAA. Unfortunatly the people who boycott them probably make about one in a thousand people, and even if everyone stoped buying CDs they could still survive for quite a while of royalties and reserves of cash, long enough for the boycott to fall apart.
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microbe
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Date: June 24, 2002 @ 1:52 PM
I used to broadcast on shoutcast once in a while.
I did not make one dime doing it and now i have an idea...I am writing my members of congress because i think that the free marketing and promotion that i gave to the riaa product should be paid for. I performed a service, right? A lot of things i played were not mainstream but yet a record company would make some cash if you liked it and said "hey, i need this CD!!!" What happens when i stream and i do not have listeners? should i pay for that? I am preparing a nice letter and hope that maybe we can get together, i.e. reverse the cash flow, for the FREE exposure that the Riaa has received from little broadcasters like me. |
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spaarlamp
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Date: June 24, 2002 @ 3:37 PM
my internet radio is always on line and don't think it illegal what about internet radio stations outside of the U.S. |
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goldenpi
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Date: June 28, 2002 @ 6:06 AM
Im sure they have a plan for those. WIPO is international. |
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JayCr
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Date: June 28, 2002 @ 11:38 PM
I have the perfect solution. File sharing isn't going away. It will likely always be around. It's become too big for anyone to stop. Everyone hates the record labels. But some still buy cd's for the artists. I mean were not out to hurt the artists, are we? All of the artists should setup web sites with thier own money with a spot where you can pay the ARTISTS for the songs you download. It wouldn't cost us much since artists only make a small amount off of every cd and even with it being optional they would still make more than enough to keep on pumping out their music. As for the record labels, let em die. If your company isn't out to improve mankind it doesn't deserve to exist anyways, and I think we can all agree that the record labels are NOT out to better mankind. |
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goldenpi
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Date: July 1, 2002 @ 3:12 AM
As far as I can see they are unstopable. Perhaps if we had a real fanatic with a large bomb we could slow them down. Short of high explosives, nothing is going to stop the record companys. You can annoy them easily enough. If you want you could write leaflets about their ripping off artists and hand them out to customers outside music shops, at least until security catches you. Would annoy them a bit, cost them a few sales, thats about it.
Not everyone hates the record labels. Everyone here hates them, but most people dont care. Thats why I suggested handing out leaflets.
File sharing will always be around. RIAA plans could badly damage it, even shuting down all p2p-based systems, but with IRC and FTP dumps going up faster than the RIAA can take them down they wont be able to completly stop file sharing. There was a time when people traded copied atari disks and tapes of music, and a similar system would evolve on the internet.
I have one good use of file sharing here. I have two books, part of a series. One if book one, the other is book 16. I dont know any shops selling those books, and im too lazy to content the publisher. So I downloaded the books instead. Admitidly royalties just fell by the equililent of 14 books, but its not likely I would buy them anyway. Even if I did I would buy them at a secondhand book shop or oxfam. Now I can enjoy 16 books. Just need to get a palmtop to read them on. |
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goldenpi
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Date: July 1, 2002 @ 3:12 AM
As far as I can see they are unstopable. Perhaps if we had a real fanatic with a large bomb we could slow them down. Short of high explosives, nothing is going to stop the record companys. You can annoy them easily enough. If you want you could write leaflets about their ripping off artists and hand them out to customers outside music shops, at least until security catches you. Would annoy them a bit, cost them a few sales, thats about it.
Not everyone hates the record labels. Everyone here hates them, but most people dont care. Thats why I suggested handing out leaflets.
File sharing will always be around. RIAA plans could badly damage it, even shuting down all p2p-based systems, but with IRC and FTP dumps going up faster than the RIAA can take them down they wont be able to completly stop file sharing. There was a time when people traded copied atari disks and tapes of music, and a similar system would evolve on the internet.
I have one good use of file sharing here. I have two books, part of a series. One if book one, the other is book 16. I dont know any shops selling those books, and im too lazy to content the publisher. So I downloaded the books instead. Admitidly royalties just fell by the equililent of 14 books, but its not likely I would buy them anyway. Even if I did I would buy them at a secondhand book shop or oxfam. Now I can enjoy 16 books. Just need to get a palmtop to read them on. |
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JayCr
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Date: July 1, 2002 @ 11:21 PM
Well maybe everyone doesn't HATE the Recording Companies, but do you know of anyone who loves them? Now that would be scary if anyone did love them... It would send shivers down my spine every night... |
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kdude88
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Date: July 2, 2002 @ 8:39 PM
Sucks, they started it like now and charges nonprofit organizations the fee from years ago too... Now i understand why live365 started the money thing, it just plain sucks.
Like its not enough making millions a year, they wanna make a million and 1 |
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goldenpi
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Date: July 4, 2002 @ 3:03 PM
There are two classes of people regarding recording companys. Those that hate them, and the sheep. (The ones that work for them dont count, unfair bias). |
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