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IWT Bans RIAA From Accessing Its Network
IWT Bans RIAA From Accessing Its Network
August 19, 2002
Information Wave Technologies has announced it will actively deny the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) from accessing the contents of its network. Earlier this year, the RIAA announced its new plan to access computers without owner's consent for the sake of protecting its assets. Information Wave believes this policy puts its customers at risk of unintentional damage, corporate espionage, and invasion of privacy to say the least.
Due to the nature of this matter and RIAA's previous history, we feel the RIAA will abuse software vulerabilities in a client's browser after the browser accesses its site, potentially allowing the RIAA to access and/or tamper with your data. Starting at midnight on August 19, 2002, Information Wave customers will no longer be able to reach the RIAA's web site. Information Wave will also actively seek out attempts by the RIAA to thwart this policy and apply additional filters to protect our customers' data.
Information Wave will also deploy peer-to-peer clients on the Gnutella network from its security research and development network (honeynet) which will offer files with popular song titles derived from the Billboard Top 100 maintained by VNU eMedia. No copyright violations will take place, these files will merely have arbitrary sizes similar to the length of a 3 to 4 minute MP3 audio file encoded at 128kbps. Clients which connect to our peer-to-peer clients, and then afterwards attempt to illegally access the network will be immediately blacklisted from Information Wave's network. The data collected will be actively maintained and distributed from our network operations site.
The placement of this policy is not intended to hamper the RIAA's privacy elimination agenda or advocate Internet piracy, but to ensure the safety of our customers' data attached to our network from hackers or corporate espionage hidden by the veil of RIAA copyright enforcement.
If you have questions, comments, or concerns regarding this policy, please e-mail riaa@informationwave.net.
User Comments
(These do not necessarily reflect the beliefs of this site)
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uerseya
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 1:06 PM
Hell YEAH BABY !!!
How many other ISP's in da house !!!
How many other ISP's in da house !!!
How many other ISP's in da house !!!
How many . . .
How many . . .
How many other . . .
How many other . . .
How many other ISP's in da house have the balls to do the same . . . ? ? ?
Rock'n'Roll Baby !!!
RIAA . . . bye bye ! ;-)
Hail MP3 baby !!!
Lil quote . . .
If you can't beat them . . .
. . . . join them !!!
P.S. 1st post - see ya ! |
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RyanS
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 1:09 PM
whoa! |
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uerseya
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 1:15 PM
Big heads up to . . . .
Information Wave Technologies @ . . .
http://www.informationwave.net/home.php
So all you AOL user's gonna start a mass migration of your ISP needs to this kick ass outfit ?
Goes for all other ISP user's ? I'm sure the gained privacy should counter any disadvantages you get from movin's ISP's ?
Pity they don't got no service in the UK !!!
Jus' hope they no shady front for the RIAA's ? Though I SERIOUSLY doubt it ! |
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mp3manlou
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 1:30 PM
what do u mean isps??? i thought that the clients wouldnt let riaa guys access the network.
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mp3manlou
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 1:31 PM
i dont get this. is this good or bad??? |
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mtekk
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 1:35 PM
yeay a good isp, finally |
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smelv1n
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 1:37 PM
it's cool
they're saying fuck off right to the riaa's face. |
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mp3manlou
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 1:42 PM
hell i aint usin them, they offer 56k, isdn, no dsl or cable internet which means i gotta have a t1 line installed in my house! |
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ChillinBuzz
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 1:42 PM
This is a company protecting itself and it's customers from the proposals the RIAA wish to pursue in order to violate our rights.
If this becomes law as part of it inevitably will, Information Wave Technologies will possibly see themselves in a very high profile lawsuit involving the RIAA and perhaps even the government; they will also be seen as a very large brick in the wall the industry wishes to demolish and it will probably draw such widespread public support that the case will dissolve quicker than recording artists' royalties and they will be seen as carers of the public.
Good on them! Let's see more companies stand up. |
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mp3manlou
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 1:44 PM
i like what they are doing, i just want em to offer dsl. jeez, the average consumer doesnt want a t1 line, they want dsl and cable. hopefully some other companies stand up to the riaa. riaa dont have enough money to sue em all!!! |
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crawdd
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 1:56 PM
But if you have this isp, you cant access gnutella, so.... |
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Spica
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 2:12 PM
lol, the RIAA servers should be completely isolated from the rest of the internet.
let them fight out their little cyberwars among themselves.
:D |
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Your-Mom
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 5:18 PM
heh heh! |
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Remye
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 6:35 PM
can you say FIRST SHOT!!!??? helllllyeahhhh!!!!!!!!!!
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SurgeDude
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 7:15 PM
But arnt they also adding dummy mp3 files to gnutella? Thats a bad thing for us isnt it?
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ChillinBuzz
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 7:20 PM
It certainly means the chances of having a 100% perfect download day on p2p programs is less than ever, but nothing we can't handle. You have to look closer at who/what you're sharing but it won't stop you getting what you want eventually ;) |
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ChillinBuzz
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 7:21 PM
sorry, what THEY'RE sharing. doh! |
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princess-angry
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 8:18 PM
I'm adding this site to favs!!!!!! oh yeah!!! ;) this rocks!!!! this company's cool!!! :) |
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princess-angry
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 8:20 PM
too bad they ahve no dail up access in ohio!! oh well if I move to another state... I;ll most likely go with them!!! ;) |
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princess-angry
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 8:22 PM
just added to favs!!! ;) |
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shoshidge
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 8:23 PM
Good news, I can live without being able to download the 'top 100' anyway, it's not what I use P2P for in the first place.
It may not be perfect, but it's a step in the right direction and a livable compromise.
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mp3manlou
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Date: August 19, 2002 @ 10:16 PM
riaa must die |
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scottjw
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Date: August 20, 2002 @ 2:37 AM
I think you guys misread the article... if you download songs from their database I don't think YOU will be blacklisted, only if you then try and do shit in their network... but maybe I am reading it wrong... probably am. |
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scottjw
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Date: August 20, 2002 @ 2:39 AM
I guess what I meant is that since the RIAA is going to be the one accessing the network to check out the files (presumably), then if they try and do so from other clients, they will be blacklisted... such as if they use a seperate company or something to try and access their network. |
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Pirate515
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Date: August 20, 2002 @ 3:37 AM
scottjw is right. The purpose of the dummy P2P network that they will set up will be to detect and ban networks that do any kind of spying. The only way RIAA can catch people on P2P is to sniff packets while downloading a file off that user. In other words, what IWT will do is check for users who are downloading and sniffing at the same time (i.e. spies and most likely RIAA contractors). When an IP address of the individual doing the above is traced, the entire network will be banned. |
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Svensta
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Date: August 20, 2002 @ 7:30 AM
The main good point to this, is that they plan on baiting the network with seemingly bad files, tempting anyone on the p2p network spying to hit their users. Once this is done, they can block access to the entire network. interesting point, and the Association will be hoist on their own petard. This falls under their OWN rule of being able to defend against copyright infringement using any means necessary. Further, they own their own network space and can disallow anyone they want. VERY interesting tactic, and hopefully a workable one.
My ISP is one of the Big Five (TW) so this will never happen for me, but there's always changing your ISP, which I would do to ensure my own private net interaction. |
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Spica
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Date: August 20, 2002 @ 9:00 AM
i am sooo close to creating my own internet and just laser-link all my friends on campus at 100Mbps.
i now have the technology to make my own Wide Area Networks using our new Last Mile technology! hahahaha! catch me, copyright motherfuckers! |
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furrball316
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Date: August 20, 2002 @ 7:09 PM
I noticed that they're basing the file size of their bogus files on mp3s encoded at 128. That should leave a simple work around for anybody downloading from gnutella, just look for files encoded at 160 or above. You escape the spoof trap and get a higher quality file in the process. |
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pog
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Date: August 20, 2002 @ 9:30 PM
mwawhawhawhahahahaha blacklist the mongrels. Then trace and publish the users info. working for the riaa. :D
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JimsMyName
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Date: August 22, 2002 @ 1:39 PM
P2P is wrong. It's piracy and that is stealing. No matter how much you want to deny it. |
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Spica
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Date: August 22, 2002 @ 2:10 PM
no baby, p2p is just Right.
it's idiots like you who try to brainwash the general public that p2p is stealing.
no, bitch, _charging 20 dollars for one CD_ is stealing. |
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Spica
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Date: August 22, 2002 @ 2:12 PM
Charging money for music is wrong.
It's like selling crack cocaine and it's stealing. No matter how much money you make off it. |
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furrball316
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Date: August 23, 2002 @ 1:57 AM
Jim, how can you say p2p is stealing? There are plenty of files on p2p that are there with the blessing of the copyright owners, some that even come with licenses that clearly state that it's OK to freely distribute the file as long as the license/readme text stays intact. By saying p2p is stealing you're saying that taking something that the owner freely gives us is stealing. By that logic, every time you take something that the owner gives you, you're stealing too! And while we're on the subject of stealing, do you support the RIAA's attempts to steal our fair use rights under law? Do you support the RIAA's attempt to steal our rights to privacy? Do you support the RIAA's attempt to steal our legal right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty? Do you support the RIAA's attempt to steal perfectly legal services from us in an attempt to stop a "suspected" (NOT proven) "pirate"? You want to talk about people stealing, let's talk about the RIAA. |
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Ruveharov
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Date: August 23, 2002 @ 8:34 AM
P2P RULES FUCK OFF RIAA and BSA i have never buyed any music or MICRO$OFT cd(program) I'm Running PIRATED WIN2000(and 98se) so FUCK off and try to catch me i got IPGhost 2.0 so eat mine GNU RULEZ i only buy the games that i have played (for multyplayer use only) others i copy or get rips and burn em to cd's (same goes to movies i go to the cinema only if i know that the mov is good) |
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NeoFlash
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Date: August 23, 2002 @ 10:52 AM
JimsMyName, go away, all you have done is spammed supposedly free porn(if you want REAL FREE porn, www.wetcircle.com) and say stuff when you dont know what you are talking about. |
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NeoFlash
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Date: August 23, 2002 @ 10:54 AM
furrball316 is rite about the file bitrate, unless im downloading a prank call, since i play it on big speakers, the file HAS to be at least 192k. most of my files are 320k. and spica, about that last mile technology to make 100 mbps internet and beam it to people, what is that??? |
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Spica
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Date: August 23, 2002 @ 11:47 AM
lasers, neo, lasers.
i can take two $4.5 laserpointers, some cheap diodes, some misc electronic stuff, and make you a 1-2 mile connection at speeds of 100Mbps (and above, if necessary). So you will have a 2 mile optic connection for under 20 bucks, as opposed to putting up anntennae, or digging a hole and laying cables, which usually costs in the 5-figure range.
first thought: what if a bird flies through the laser beam?
answer: do you care? how long is that bird going to stay in there? 1, maybe 2 seconds? even if the beam has to go through a tree, so that it is covered 90% of the time, you still get 10% of 100Mbps, or 10Mbps on the average.
Yes, i have already made a prototype transmitter/receiver pairs from readily available parts; this works just fine.
for those who dont know enough electronics to make the i/o adapter, there are existing 100-dollar ethernet-fiberoptic adapters that you can use to directly drive the laser: just replace the infrared LED by your own lightsource (laser) and u're done.
yes, cheap lasers can be modulated at x100 Mbps.
the only thing you might stil need is to replace the receiver diodes with the right wavelength diodes, so that you get no interference form sunlight etc, or just put some optic (glass) bandpass filters on the receiver; done.
enjoy your freespace optic wireless connection.
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goldenpi
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Date: August 24, 2002 @ 9:45 AM
Only 100MHz? Your modulateing the laser directly, but if you use a polorizing filter and half an LCD you can get 10 times that. Unfortunatly it needs rather expensive equipment :-(
Free-air lasers are too unreliable for any distance through. Atmospheric distortion, rain, slight misalignments, etc. I think long-range point-to-point wireless links need to work in the RF or microwave spectrums. A good yagi array, made using a tv aerial and big saw, should handle 50Mbit at a much better reliability than lasers.
Think it would be a good idea to put loads of RPMs and libruaries on gnutella? I always have a hard time finding those, and dependencys on this are rather messed up. Excessive use of --nodeps and --force. |
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Spica
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Date: August 24, 2002 @ 4:15 PM
please, all these problems have already been solved.
also notice that the most expensive part of ISP is the "Last Mile" that is, connecting the wonderful server to your home.
1. laserdiodes can go over 3GHz if you wish, but i doubt you can get cheap electronics for the 3Gbps PC interface.
2. LCD only goes up to 100kHz or so. I know this from my intern days, when i was working with experimental liquid crystal cells.
3. RF is extremely slow, AND you have to pay to use the frequencies.
4. RF just plain sux for last-mile stationary data transmission.
5. infrared lasers, even 1/5 as powerful as a pointer, are still reliable enough and work in rain and light/medium fog.
6. the era of fast digital RF is over before it really started, since RF just plain sux for highspeed networks.
You are getting some industrial-grade know-how here, no need to thank me :) |
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goldenpi
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Date: August 25, 2002 @ 11:48 AM
1. You can probably make an ethernet interface, 10, 100 or 1000Mbit.
2. Perhaps they use high-frequency LCDs, but the laser transmitter I read about used a polorizing filter and the crystal part of an LCD. Perhaps it was just because its hard to modulate powerful laser transmitters - diodes dont put out much power, atmospheric distortion and dust would scatter it.
3. 50Mbit is not extremily slow compared with current internet access speeds. And yagi arrays are very directional so you wont interfere with anything. They arn't quite as directional as paraboics, but close and a lot easier to make. The more directors you use the more directional the array is. TV aerials are one form of yagi array. Add more directors and some shielind to reduce leakage, you have a narrow-beam transmitter.
4. Why? Its more reliable than laser, cheaper and easier than laying cables.
5. Infrared perhaps. What range?
6. convienient through, and when other links are measured in kibibits at any real range you dont need to be that fast. Anyway, if sky can send a 22mbit TV channel from geostationary orbit and have it recieved on a minidish I expect an earth-based system, with its shorter range, could go faster.
Im not a professional, I just happen to spend several hours a day cramming networking and data communications books. |
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Chaz706
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Date: August 29, 2002 @ 6:06 PM
*shows a middle finger to the RIAA while he says this*
Screw you!
*Giving a thumbs up to IWT*
Keep stickin it to the RIAA. Everyone here salutes you! We need more guys like you. |
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