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THE RIAA RESPONDS...
Here is the text of my original email requesting clarification:
Dear Ms. Weiss,
I am writing to obtain some clarification on the press release of Dec.11, and contained on the RIAA website at
http://riaa.org/PR_Story.cfm?id=592.
Specifically I have a question about the number of CD-R burners. In the Press Release it says "the equivalent of 421 CD-R burners" which is really quite confusing. Exactly how many CD-R burners were "captured". What is meant by "the equivalent of 421 CD-R burners"? If the actual number of CD-R burners is different, how was the number of "equivalent burners" arrived at?
I have been told that the actual number was somewhere in the area of 156 burners.
Secondly, how was it that the US Secret Service was involved in the bust? Wouldn't this type of action be usually be conducted by the FBI or US Marshals?
I intend to write a story for boycott-riaa.com and would like to get your clarification, so that I can present the story accurately.
Looking forward to your reply,
Bill Evans
THE RESPONSE
Dear Mr. Evans:
Thank you for your inquiry. We stated that the raid was the equivalent of 421 burners, as we need to put these operations in perspective based on burning capacity and output, not the # of physical slots for the discs. Since they burn 4x burners - it is roughly 4xs the numbers of burners.
We work with the Secret Service but you should contact them as I am not their spokesperson.
Thank, you
Amy Weiss
So lets see the actual number was 421 divided by 4? or approx 105 actual burners then. Kind of makes one wonder what else has been put in "perspective" The number of dollars lost? The actual damages? Just because something "COULD" be, doesn't mean that it is. Amy Weiss could be a Republican, but she's not. She's a former intern to the Democratic National Committee and worked in the press office of the White House during Bill Clinton's term, and started there just before the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke.
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Frawgster
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Date: December 17, 2002 @ 6:44 PM
That is quite possibly the stupidest rationalization for an obvious obfuscation I have ever heard. |
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thumbtack
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Date: December 17, 2002 @ 7:54 PM
I guess that depends on the definition of "is" Frawg...:) |
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goofycaca
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Date: December 17, 2002 @ 7:58 PM
Does that mean that I have the equivalant of 24 CD burners? What kind of dumb crap is this? 1 CD burner burns 1 CD. Funny how that works. |
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leflaw
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Date: December 17, 2002 @ 8:34 PM
All for 4 and 4 for 1 |
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Frawgster
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Date: December 17, 2002 @ 8:51 PM
I'm dead serious here. I really cannot believe that someone in Ms. Weiss' position would believe and pass on such a bullshit answer for a simple question. Really, this amazes me. Is there people out there who actually believe this kind of nonsense? I'm really dumbfounded by her response. This is just...just...stupid. |
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Expose
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Date: December 17, 2002 @ 8:52 PM
Too many yellow bolts here. |
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Frawgster
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Date: December 17, 2002 @ 8:53 PM
I mean...anyone with half a fucking brain can see right through her response. Damn't. I just can't imagine her thinking that her response is legit. Maybe she was being sarcastic...or something. :shrug: |
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Remye
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Date: December 17, 2002 @ 9:01 PM
wtf??? one burner has ONE slot, for ONE cd to be used in. I have TWO drives, but one is a ROM, so I can burn from disc to disc.
If they only got 105 burners ( or whatever insanely obvious number it is today), then they should SAY "105".
Yet another example of how the RIAA is playing to and with the media, and show quite blatantly their belief that we're idiots. They have no idea that the more lies they tell, the more people get educated, and find the real truth. Hey, there's an idea, like the tobacoo "truth" campaign! We should have press releases with the obvious lies from the RIAA put on billboards too! Oh wait, we're all too busy pirating our cds and dvds to put up billboards.
And on another note, how about adding Ms. Amy Weiss to the rogues gallery for being the math genius turned media spin doctor that she is?
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Your-Mom
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Date: December 17, 2002 @ 9:31 PM
:rollseyes: :idea:
FOR SALE:
equivalent of 24 CD burners! Brand new still in box. Bought for the equivalent of $2,400, will sacrafice for $1,800. Only takes up one drive bay!
**includes one IDE cable and one cd audio cable**
Serious buyers only! :fingerscrossed:
Serious buyers only please!
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tritorch
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Date: December 17, 2002 @ 10:35 PM
Why yes Mom, i'll buy that ... and how about some of that luxurious ocean front property over there in Arizona. (Better make the deal fast tho--that shit sells quick.) |
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W-B
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Date: December 18, 2002 @ 12:55 AM
The more I hear them, the more I notice that the arguments of the RIAA sound not too different from the arguments thrown at us by so-called "gun-control advocates," or as some would call them, "gun grabbers." (Think of the arguments put forth after the Columbine massacre and the recent Beltway sniper shootings.) I can see through the RIAA's so-called "logic"; to wit, that since CD burners are used in piracy rings, that such devices should be outlawed altogether.
In a way, it figures. The multinational entertainment-media complex puts out films, TV shows and CD's with large amounts of violent imagery, then claim they're in favor of gun control; the parallel (I.M.H.O.) being the RIAA's evidently advocating the outlawing of all CD burners. They put out product in favor of abortion, and at the same time support Big Government intrusion into digital technology that would effectively "abort" certain consumer devices before they're even introduced to the public. And other instances too endless to elaborate on here. |
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Svensta
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Date: December 18, 2002 @ 8:19 AM
If this is their official argument, than shouldn't the automatic rebuttal be alogn the lines of
"but 421 is not DIVISABLE BY FOUR"
They captured a quarter of a burner? |
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SoulBeats
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Date: December 18, 2002 @ 8:54 AM
LoL@Sven
Either RIAA 1) are idiots, 2) they are idiots and think we are idiots or 3) they are bored. |
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Alacard
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Date: December 18, 2002 @ 10:49 AM
Svensta: It all depends on how you define the phrase "not divisible by four."
Does the phrase "you better wise up misses Weiss" ring true to anyone here? |
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goldenpi
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Date: December 18, 2002 @ 12:18 PM
2) |
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EnwTheGood
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Date: December 18, 2002 @ 3:40 PM
They weren't all 4x, Sven. |
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goofycaca
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Date: December 18, 2002 @ 4:00 PM
Alacard, you're so wrong. How dare you make a Rocky Horror reference in such a heinous context. hehehe Just plain wrong. |
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Svensta
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Date: December 18, 2002 @ 4:24 PM
Jeez, ya think? |
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Alacard
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Date: December 18, 2002 @ 7:14 PM
Not to spit hairs or anything but:
Cd burners only come in speeds that a multiples of two. So it would've been impossible for them to get the equivilent of 421 burners ... you do the math.
Goofycaca: I apoligize for my blasphemy ... but it was good to resist. |
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Alacard
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Date: December 18, 2002 @ 7:15 PM
*too good to resist. |
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smelv1n
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Date: December 18, 2002 @ 8:05 PM
W-B - you're right, guns don't kill people. they're soft and cute like kittens.
ass.
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iH8RIAA
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Date: December 19, 2002 @ 3:20 PM
what the RIAA means when they put it in perspective is that a 40x burner, in the same time as a 10x burner, can theoretically make 4x the discs of a 10x burner... i see their point although there is a big huge math error. |
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Expose
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Date: December 19, 2002 @ 4:56 PM
That's just plain idiocy. |
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bassmankane
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Date: December 19, 2002 @ 5:38 PM
to add on to Mikserimies list,
4.) the RIAA knows it has all the power, all the keys, and all the media, so it can say what it wants, and only the underground sites that the politicians don't go to will even think to check on their 'facts', let alone complain, fume, and try to change anything.
RIAA = Status Quo = :poo:
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jkate
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Date: December 20, 2002 @ 4:18 PM
Maybe they could take some of the thousands of dollars they spend on governmental shitters and spend it on a fkn math lesson. |
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Ramamageesh
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Date: December 20, 2002 @ 6:05 PM
Geez.
A whole bunch of burners were "captured". Let's see, if one of them was operating at the time of the bust and it didn't shut itself off immediately, could it be charged with resisting arrest?
As for the Secret Service involvement...
Let's revisit another time when the wrong government agency was called in to make a bust...
The agency was the ATF and the bust was at Waco, Texas. We all know what a screw up that was...
So I say let the Secret Service start coming along on these busts...let's see if their incompetence is on par with the ATF, FBI, and CIA. Who knows? If nothing else it will provide some good media fodder for the group to chew on...
Stuff like this just |
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Ramamageesh
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Date: December 20, 2002 @ 6:05 PM
irks me to no end |
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