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Open letter to Cary Sherman and the RIAA
Dear Cary:
In the last 24 hours, you and the RIAA have dumped on your own doorstep, shot yourselves in the foot and managed to get huge amounts of egg not merely all over your own faces, but also on that of the entire entertainment industry.
And for that we thank you. Heartily.
Was the sue 'em all campaign your former boss Hilary Rosen's brainchild, or was it yours? We wonder.
But whoever it was deserves our gratitude. Because your subpoena campaign, and its aftermath in America's courts, has achieved more in a few hours than we at Boycott-RIAA.com, DMusic.com, p2pnet.net and Gnutella.com have been able to manage in three years.
Now the whole world knows what we, and millions of other online music lovers, have known for years: that you and your entertainment industry are corrupt, self-serving and bloody minded.
And your troubles are only just beginning.
We're now averaging around 650 to 750 people online at any given time, which is clogging up the pipes a bit. Not that we're complaining : )
Nor are we alone. Thanks to your campaign web sites like ours are gaining supporters hand-over-fist.
So what? - you ask.
These people were once your customers.
Now the tide has finally turned. When you and the RIAA tried to sue a 12-year-old girl and a 71-year-old grandfather, the world saw you as you really are.
Nothing could have better underscored your insufferable arrogance.
You may also have noticed that the mainstream media who, until now, have been used to treating your every utterance as if it was the truth, are also seeing the light.
Read the papers, Cary, and watch the news.
And remember how it was with the USSR. One day it ruled half the world, and then ...
Yours with grateful thanks,
Bill Evans, Boycott-RIAA
Larry Feldman, DMusic.com
Jon Newton, p2pnet.net
User Comments
(These do not necessarily reflect the beliefs of this site)
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wlfhcommishjava
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 7:28 PM
well put.
i hope they read it. i hope they also get our angry messages. |
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woodhead
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:05 PM
An excelent letter, and the truth RIAA
you will be boycotted unitl you cry uncle, then will slip away into the fade never to be heard from or seen again. |
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IsCaRiOtMyJuDaS
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:06 PM
amen, bill. i'll be sending MY email tomarrow, 08:00, 9/11/03. follow ME troops! :)
iscariot~ |
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captdunsel
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:07 PM
I can't add much to that. very well said gentlemen. |
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Suikiogiaz
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:07 PM
Now the information is finally beginning to seep on a national level, from which it can only further proliferate.
Suikio |
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IsCaRiOtMyJuDaS
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:07 PM
lets CRASH that server! arrrrr.... |
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bulletproof
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:10 PM
after all is said and done, i hope they
cant give cd's away.
i hope they burn in hell |
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koemoejoe
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:11 PM
that whas grate i think the riaa will get that message becose thay are watching us and every story that comes to the bords thay know about us and will not admit we are makeing a big impact |
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gdZiemann
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:14 PM
Do not forget the politicians (Hatch, Sensenbrenner, e.g.) who have rewritten the law for the benefit of the RIAA. They are traitors of the public trust and must be punished severely. |
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churchkey
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:15 PM
What e-mail campaign and when? |
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IsCaRiOtMyJuDaS
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:18 PM
well guys, (and gals), im off to spin some beautiful music...i'll check back in about an hour...again, good luck bill...on second thought, i'm spinning this set for YOU!
peace and love~
iscariot~ |
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IsCaRiOtMyJuDaS
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:20 PM
ok, 1 more churchkey...webmaster@riaa.com, 9/11/03 begining at 08:00. 8am.
peace |
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khate
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:21 PM
Hey, I'm new here. Funny enough, I just sent a nasty (but articulate) email to RIAA's webmaster earlier. Why their webmaster? Because that's the only email contact they have on their site, the cowards! Go ahead, poke around that self-serving drivel of a site: you won't find an email addy or link anywhere. I guess it helps them stay safely tucked away in their ivory towers, away from the logical arguments presented here.
I ranted for a little bit in that email, and then conceeded that their lack of providing an email address was a quibbling point... but one I wished to make an example of. "And isn't that what the RIAA lawsuits are all about? Making 'examples' out of relatively harmless things (eg, lower class 12 year olds)?"
Keep up the good fight! |
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smartassologist
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:26 PM
Great letter...Have been out all afternoon passing iformation about your site as well as the riaa's phone number to family and friends...Heads up America...Together the masses really can make a difference. |
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stopthemadness
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:26 PM
the "aftermath of the destruction of the riaa" will be sweet music to my ears....do you think they would want the rights to that too and sue everyone from birth to 100? |
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MerylStryfe
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:27 PM
Heh, good luck guys! I hope that things will go well with the RIAA e-mailings tomorrow. Tomorrow, though I will be taking a moment of silence for the people who died less than five miles away from me. I will also take a moment of silence for the people on that airplane that crashed in Pennsylvania who possibly saved my life by stopping the hijackers.
Anyway, good luck..and godspeed, and I wish you all success.
**//meryl |
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Foopah
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:40 PM
I emailed my state senator earlier today to complain about the RIAA tactics and how they seem to be operating "above the law" in handling these cases - as well as urging my senator to talk to others in the senate about the travisty of the DMCA Section 512(h) subpoena provision. I urge ALL members of this gallery to do the same, and to be succinct and pertinent to the FACTS as to why, as an AMERICAN, you should NOT be subjucated to a police state in which this country is about to turn into.
This is AMERICA, where FREEDOMS are supposed to MATTER! |
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thepick
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:47 PM
Very well put gentlemen. Your statments in the letter were succinct and razor-sharp. That's the most effective argument that we've seen yet, and ironically it was completely self-inflicted on those greedy so-and-so's. I can only imagine what the RIAA has up their collective sleeve in response to this PR nightmare they've courted thus far. If it's anything like thier bumbling campaign to eliminate piracy, they'll be a line of people ten miles long, just waiting to kiss their self-serving carcasses goodbye. Cheers!! |
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fucary
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:48 PM
I'm glad to hear you're all up for the e-mail campaign tomorrow. I posted this in another forum but it's worth repeating here.
I originally proposed using the subject line "Bullies!" Seeing as how they probably do monitor this site, they have most likely set their spam filters to weed out such e-mails. Be creative and use whatever subject you like. Good luck.
Oh, just thought I'd mention that the call-in campaign to their toll free line has been going really well. There's an amusing anecdote in the Action forum about a call to RIAA. When the phone was answered, the caller said,"Is Saddam available or is he busy terrorizing more 12 year old girls?"
To the amusement of the caller, the man on the other end replied,"I can see if Saddam is here. Would you like to hold?"
(absolutely true)
I knew he was there all along... |
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daytwo777
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:57 PM
i'm in for tomorrow too, i'm gonna forward to everyone i know to do the same. This should be good. |
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thepick
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 9:01 PM
I fired off the following letter to my senator, Dick Durban, in commendation to his questioning of the unbelieveable situation with the 12-year-old girl:
"Greetings,
My name is Kalaab, and I am a proud citizen of the great state of Illinois. This letter is to Senator Durbin, in applause to his succinctly-worded confrontation with the Recording Industry Association of America's Carey Sherman in regards to the legal proceedings concerning 12-year-old Brianna LaHara. I am pleased to see that my state's senator isn't afraid to stand up against this ludicrous prosecution, and I proudly stand beside Senator Durbin in his ridicule of the RIAA's ridiculous and monopolistic escapades.
Also, I would like to request that Senator Durbin continue fighting for his proud and loyal citizens in the battle against monopolistic tyranny. As the elected voice of our noble state, he has thus far acknowledged and promoted the voice of reason against the RIAA, and I strongly urge him to continue doing so for the sake of the basic freedoms entitled to the citizens of this nation.
In conclusion, I would like to thank all those in support of our state's administration (including Senator Durbin) that oppose the unbelievable breach of privacy that the RIAA has been committing on a daily basis for several years, and I am proud to live in a state in which the elected representatives will not bow to tyranny and be placed in the pocket of an Orwellian organization bent on invading the privacy and persecuting the innocent.
Thank you for your time, and please feel free to reply.
Best Regards,
Kalaab" |
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ILUVELPEES
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 9:03 PM
Kudos, gentlemen. Enough said. |
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ghosthouse
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 9:12 PM
In the words of King Theoden in J.R.R. Tolkien's masterpiece, "Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers," just before Saruman's army lay seige to Helm's Deep. "...and so it begins." |
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allan1850
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 9:17 PM
excellent letter. |
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allan1850
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 9:28 PM
i know this is off topic but i was wondering if you could get some buttons made. i always see high school kids with buttons all over their back packs. i figure if the recording industry can target kids why can we. |
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WarlockX
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 9:32 PM
Excellent letter. I'll be watching. |
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ravenance
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 9:40 PM
I say everyone needs to send this leter to their congressman and senators!!! Let them know what the RIAA is really about!!
-ravenance |
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IsCaRiOtMyJuDaS
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 9:49 PM
code's way ahead of you on jrr ghosthouse:) |
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fucary
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 9:50 PM
I e-mailed Sen. Norm Coleman who has promised congressional hearings into the methods used by the RIAA in collecting information used to identify defendants. I sent him the text as well as a link to an interesting article in The Register which described the hacking methods RIAA has used and are considered of "dubious legality"
I also sent him the authors e-mail should he wish to contact him for further information.
By the way, the RIAA site is not down, they are just hioding it in anticipation of tomorrow's e-mail campaign by blocking IP numbers - or rather by only allowing certain ones. Type in the URL www.riaa.com and hit the "Go" button on your browser repeatedly. You will probably see a quick flash of black which is the backgroung of their page. Can't fool me guys. I've been in this business too long. |
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fucary
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 9:57 PM
Also, everyone do this: Go to the "Start" button then "Run" when the Run box pops up, type in ping 216.73.87.42
If the site is still down at 8am, everyone ping the server repeatedly. You can run, but you can't hide - and we've got 'em running folks, believe me.
If enough people ping the server simultaneously, it will have the same effect as a massive e-mail campaign. Pass it on. |
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fucary
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:00 PM
make that, ping 146.82.174.10
sorry. |
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RocketGib
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:14 PM
Before you guys get too carried away:
I found this article on Zone-H.com. I have nothing to do with this at all, I'm just relaying public info.:
RIAA blocks attacks with TST-Secure-OS + SyS64738's comment
By Ashlee Vance
07/26/2003
It's time for would be RIAA attackers to run for the hills. The pigopolists have installed TST-Secure-OS on their Web servers.
This Web server brand is not well know to hacker neophytes. Those in-the-know, however, tremble in fear when TST's rock-solid software rears its ugly head. The code was developed as part of a ten-year, government funded engineering effort to block hackers from unpopular Web sites.
Well, not really.
More likely, the TST-Secure-OS is a disguised version of Microsoft IIS 6.0. The RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) has remodeled its "Hide the Web site" game into a "Hide the Web server" contest.
Hackers have largely had their way with the music label-backed mob's Web site. There were times this year and last when the homepage was down for weeks. Then there was that embarrassing snafu when a hacker managed to put copyrighted tunes up for free download on the site. If the RIAA had real class, it would subpoena itself for that episode.
To try and stem the hacking abuse, the RIAA turned to security pioneers TST. The site map on TST's Web site provides a fine example of how ingenious these folks are.
A look through Netcraft's logs of the RIAA's Web site shows that the organization - no doubt upon recommendation from TST - decided to upgrade to Windows 2003 Server and IIS 6.0 in June. This move came as part of an RIAA site redesign and, by all accounts, has helped curb the hacking abuse.
While the RIAA was proud to show its support for Microsoft's new OS and Web server as of mid-June, it has since turned its back on Redmond and now relies on software subterfuge. The operating system is currently marked as "unknown" and TST-Secure-OS is listed as the Web server.
Given TST's stunning records in uptime performance, it will be interesting to see how long the TST-Secure-OS holds up. The big, bad scary name is sure to keep the naughties away. ®
SyS64738's comment: good luck to the small enterprise TST, this might be the opportunity to be launched to glory. Good luck also to RIAA admin. This news will just push crackers to demonstrate that the most vulnerable part of the system is the human one. RIAA admin delighted us is the past with little candies like :
- passwordless admin login pages located in the secret directory /admin
- forgetting to take away the illegally uploaded songs from the server even if the defacement was removed
Oh gosh...
In the meantime, here is the most recent history of pilgrim RIAA from webserver to webserver, hosting company to hosting company, Ip to Ip.
MAY THE FARCE BE WITH YOU...
RIAA.ORG
OS Server Last changed IP address Netblock Owner
unknown unknown 19-Jun-2003 68.163.90.12 Verizon Internet Services
unknown unknown 15-Jun-2003 146.82.174.12 Global Crossing
Windows Server 2003 Microsoft-IIS/6.0 14-Jun-2003 146.82.174.25 Global Crossing
Windows Server 2003 Microsoft-IIS/6.0 13-Jun-2003 146.82.174.25 Global Crossing
Windows 2000 unknown 5-Jun-2003 64.241.31.117 Tomorrow's Solutions Today, Inc.
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 1-May-2003 65.244.101.224 Betis Group, Inc.
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 26-Mar-2003 65.244.101.222 Betis Group, Inc.
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 10-Mar-2003 208.253.114.222 UUNET Technologies, Inc.
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 5-Mar-2003 63.70.160.20 KILDAY CPA'S
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 19-Feb-2003 64.241.31.64 Tomorrow's Solutions Today, Inc.
RIAA.COM
OS Server Last changed IP address Netblock Owner
unknown TST-SECURE-OS 24-Jul-2003 68.163.90.10 Verizon Internet Services
unknown Microsoft-IIS/6.0 18-Jun-2003 68.163.90.10 Verizon Internet Services
unknown Microsoft-IIS/6.0 15-Jun-2003 146.82.174.10 Global Crossing
Windows Server 2003 Microsoft-IIS/6.0 13-Jun-2003 146.82.174.25 Global Crossing
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 10-Jun-2003 208.253.114.117 Betis Group
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 5-Jun-2003 64.241.31.117 Tomorrow's Solutions Today, Inc.
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 27-May-2003 64.241.31.88 Tomorrow's Solutions Today, Inc.
Windows 2000 unknown 26-May-2003 64.241.31.88 Tomorrow's Solutions Today, Inc.
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 25-May-2003 64.241.31.88 Tomorrow's Solutions Today, Inc.
Windows 2000 unknown 24-May-2003 64.241.31.88 Tomorrow's Solutions Today, Inc.
RIAA.NET
OS Server Last changed IP address Netblock Owner
unknown unknown 17-Jun-2003 68.163.90.11 Verizon Internet Services
unknown unknown 15-Jun-2003 146.82.174.11 Global Crossing
Windows Server 2003 Microsoft-IIS/6.0 14-Jun-2003 146.82.174.25 Global Crossing
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 10-Mar-2003 208.253.114.222 UUNET Technologies, Inc.
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 3-Mar-2003 63.70.160.20 KILDAY CPA'S
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 30-Jan-2003 64.241.31.64 Tomorrow's Solutions Today, Inc.
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 14-Jan-2003 164.109.25.120 Digex, Incorporated.
Windows 2000 unknown 13-Jan-2003 164.109.25.120 Digex, Incorporated.
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 8-Jan-2003 164.109.25.120 Digex, Incorporated.
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 12-Oct-2002 208.225.90.120 UUNET Technologies, Inc.
SyS64738 www.zone-h.org admin
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miniguinea
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:16 PM
I have an idea, maybe I should set up a computer with like 1000 word documents, put enough text in them to make them the size of mp3s and then rename all the doc files to 1000 different mp3s files share them and wait for those assholes to sue me. Then When I go to court I can when they take me to court I can bring my computer and say there fucking word documents.
A 12 year old settled that sucks, There picking on weak people becuase they dont know any better. first off a 12 year old doesnt understand the concept of royalties in the first place, and 2nd I forget my 2nd point I'm too pissed off.
Whats happening here is a lot of people are going to settle which is gonna look good for the record company. The people that actually fight it may indeed win there case but the record company doesnt want the misinformed people to know this. Our Buddy Sueman keeps saying noone is amune and his scare technique is working. The computer Geek will outsmart them and will stay clear. |
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fucary
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:24 PM
We're not hacking the server, we're just pinging it because as good, conscientious individuals, we just want to ensure that our massive e-mail campaign does not harm their equipment.
Aren't we nice?
By pinging the server, we can make sure that it is up and running and that our e-mails have not taken them down.
I don't care what kind of configuration they are running, unless they have a webmaster working overtime that can keep us from pinging the server at 8am, it's going to happen.
After all, we just want to do the right thing, don't we? |
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bemanisuperstar
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:26 PM
Lets just kill them and get it over with they deserve to die. |
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user65535
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:27 PM
See this, Mr Sherman, this is the boot of the american people, who're tired of your obnoxious, self-serving, and destructive ways.
I do believe you know where that boot will be going in just a moment here...
-user
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FreedomLover
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:34 PM
I think it is sad that you, the RIAA, resorted to suing a 12 year old. By suing her, the RIAA has exposed themselves as nothing more than mercenary money-grubbers, rather than the defendants of fair artist compensation that they claim to be. |
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fucary
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:34 PM
Whois information for riaa.com:
Registrant:
Recording Industry Association Of America (RIAA-DOM)
1330 Connecticut Avenue, NW
Suite 300
Washington, DC 20036
US
Domain Name: RIAA.COM
Administrative Contact:
Karaganis, Jerome (35559870P) jkaraganis@riaa.com
Recording Industry Association Of America
1330 Connecticut Avenue, NW
Suite 300
Washington, DC 20036
US
202-775-0101 fax: 202-775-7253
Technical Contact:
GNMC (VXGTRUVDOO) rm-hostmaster@ems.att.com
3324 Hollenberg
Bridgeton, MO 63044
US
314-264-9672 fax: 281-664-9975
Record expires on 26-Oct-2005.
Record created on 03-Oct-2002.
Database last updated on 10-Sep-2003 22:00:46 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS.TST-US.COM 68.163.90.234
NS1.TST-US.COM 68.163.90.236
NS2.TST-US.COM 146.82.174.236
NS1.SPEAKEASY.NET 216.254.0.9
NS2.SPEAKEASY.NET 216.231.41.19
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surfside6
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:39 PM
I believe that there isnt a jury in the country that in the penalty phase of a trial would give the RIAa more than a buck a song. Any Lawyer could show a couple or episodes of MTV Cribs with musicians showing off their houses or old Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. And let the RIAa lawyers say that they were injured or business was damaged because of uploading. |
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RocketGib
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:50 PM
Oh, by the way for those wondering if the RIAA site is down, well it was for a few mins, but then came back up, and then went back down. Wow, reminds me of a roller coaster! weeeeeeeeee |
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ghosthouse
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:53 PM
miniguinea, I love your spirit ;-)...you seem like a fighter. IsCaRiOtMyJuDaS: You're probablt right about Code, since this seems to be his turf...I won't get out of line...rest assure... I'm very creative and can be an asset to this campain. In the words of Haldir, an elf of Lorien, "You cannot go back, Now you have come thus far, you must be brought before the Lord and the Lady. They shall judge you, to hold you, or to give you leave, as they will. You cannot cross the rivers again, and behind you now, there are secret sentinels that you cannot pass. You would be slain before you saw them."
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TheSherminator
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:56 PM
I love the letter. I'm proud to be a part of this. It's not over, but things are changing. Keep fighting and remember the story to tell your grandkids. It's certainly something I will never forget.
Good luck on TechTV Bill.
Keep boycotting
Keep educating
& Keep alerting your local media & officials.
Also: Where did I read that collecting information on the 12 year old boy was a potential violation of COPPA? If it wasn't here, then now you know. Who knows the answer?
PS - The SBC v. RIAA lawsuit hasn't begun yet. |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:58 PM
Love the letter Bill. I told you that I warned them. The fall-out would not be good. PR nightmare!!!
By the way fellow boycotters, I posted a poll on Planet Garth, Garth Brooks website. Do you support the Actions of the RIAA in suing mainstream Americans for file sharing
You have already voted on this poll
This poll will close on 10-09-2003 at 11:41 PM.
Yes [ 9 ] 40.91%
No [ 13 ] * 59.09%
Be sure to visit and vote.
http://www.planetgarth.com/forums/showthread.php?p=278382
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ghosthouse
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:00 PM
Hey! I can't get on the RIAA site. |
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larshater
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:14 PM
According to opensecrts.org Orrin Hatch took $150,360 from the TV/Movie/Music industry. The letter was execellant hopefully the RIAA will get the message. Now please direct me to Mr. Sherman's crib because my dog has a little business to take care of on his doorstep. |
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mtekk
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:15 PM
well put, hope they will actually read it..... |
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PhantomGhost
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:21 PM
Nice letter. Sums everything up nicely. From when I first heard about it, I knew the sue 'em all campaign was only going to help us and hurt the RIAA.
Remember, Cary-Sue, this is your own fault. You asked for it. Just wait until the holiday season. Record sales will plummet even more, thanks to endless lawsuits.
DOWN with the RIAA. And nice to see George Z is around and about! |
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cdlver
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:47 PM
It was with shock and utter disbelief, that I read a Sept. 9, 2003 AP article ("Girl, 12, Settles Piracy Suit for $2,000") describing the lawsuit and settlement of a 12 year old honors student with the RIAA. This girl lives with her single mother in public housing! Something is very wrong here.
I beg you to please come to your senses and withdraw these lawsuits against, so called, "egregious" music file swappers.
I certainly understand the frustration of your members and the recording industry in general as music sales have dipped over the last 5 years. But is this the answer? While you may scare some people away from the p2p file swapping habit, I think you are doing far more damage to the recording industry and artists image, and ultimately may hurt music sales even more. Was this a wise move?
As much as you may want it to go away, music sharing via p2p, copied cds, audio cassettes and the like will continue. It simply is not in the RIAA's power to stem the tide.
The RIAA assumption that a swapped file is directly taking money from the record labels and their artists is flawed analysis. Please consider that someone who downloads a music file is not likely to buy that music anyway. That person was never a customer, with or with out the ability to download free music. So the common assumption that a swapped file is a lost sale is flawed.
The long term success of the record industry will hinge on the RIAA's ability to adapt to the new technologies, consumer expectations and habits. It’s unlikely that you can force consumers back into the record stores by suing 1000, 2000, or even 10,000 file swappers. I suspect the opposite effect is more likely.
I suggest the RIAA focus record labels on producing a better product at a lower price point. Here are just a few suggestions:
Music files (MP3s) swapped online are of lesser quality than commercially available Compact Discs. The RIAA should engage in a media campaign that points this out. Quality is still important to consumers.
The Mini CD - bring it back at a reasonable price (1.25/each) - many people download music files because they don't want to purchase the entire CD at 18.00 a pop. The mini CD gives customers a high quality alternative at a low cost.
Encourage clever marketing of CDs with limited edition cover art or special music mixes.
And finally, find a way to make p2p file swapping networks an asset. I'm sure there is some marketing genius in your employ that come up with a way to promote record artists using the file sharing networks. Remember how radio stations help promote record sales back in the 1940s even though the record industry initially opposed the concept of free music on the radio? Do you see a similarity?
There are answers to the RIAA's troubles. Lawsuits against 12 year olds and grandmothers is certainly not it.
I've have already told my two daughters that we will not be purchasing CDs from any of the RIAA record labels until the RIAA comes to its senses. CDs make great stocking stuffers at Christmas time, but not this year. Sorry.
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maddawg15
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:50 PM
if anyone likes the band cold, listen to their song "Kill the Music Industry". its very good and makes a big point very clear. |
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woodhead
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:52 PM
wampumfactory
I read your post on the garth site,
Good for you you are commended.
Folks you should read wampumfactory
on this site, if you have not done so and WE should start doing this on the "stars" sites. get their fan base to see what is going on and also to get the "Stars" to see that your fans and the consumer base of America and other countrie are Pissed off at the on goings of the RIAA who represents the Artist ir so they say they do. |
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woodhead
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Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:56 PM
oh and I need to learn how to type damnit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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woodhead
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:01 AM
I'm very creative and can be an asset to this campain.
Glad to have you, and all that post are an asset, so are you going too?????
We need you.
Vote Vote Vote Vote Vote |
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lahlaah
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:05 AM
Hello...been reading for ages. Just finally posting. Did anyone see this?
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.10/fileshare.html
It is about how the music companies utilize the p2p networks to figure out which music to push on radio...figues, the doody heads. |
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lahlaah
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:06 AM
oops take the 'br' off |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:12 AM
Hello fellow boycotters. I have posted a poll on planet garth message boards along with a letter. I have been having lengthy discussions with many of people who have umm NEVER copied a CD or shared music (yeah right). Good upstanding citizens. I went through these threads and posted several of the news articles on regarding the RIAA and the boycott etc.
Then a moderator shows up, and says the following and I quote--:
Actually, he might not care, but the Planet does have a guideline requesting that you not post lenghthy copywritten articles. You are welcome to share an important or interesting part of the article and a link to the original source. That is a guideline in place to protect PG. We wouldn't want someone to boycott us!
You are welcome to PM me the links for the two articles you posted and I'll fix the posts, or I can delete them and you can just post them fresh, your choice.
As this thread hasn't been Garth related in quite some time I'm moving it to the Back Porch. Should it suddenly turn Garth relevant at any part we can always move it back. It's a fluid planet.
Please continue the discussion, it's very interesting. JRiley, I love your Nabisco analogy! But I gotta tell you... that greedy little Pilsbury doughboy... he gets on my nerves with that giggle....
The Tech Tv show looks like something I need to watch and learn from, although I'm not sure we get that channel... |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:21 AM
Wow a new slogan for the RIAA--Winning the battles, losing the WAR! |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:21 AM
Wow a new slogan for the RIAA--Winning the battles, losing the WAR! |
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IFeelFree
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:51 AM
Here's an interesting article about the death of the big record labels:
http://www.downhillbattle.org/civil.html
A quote:
"A GENUINE REVOLUTION IS HAPPENING in the way Americans think about music and corporations. Anyone who avoids getting bogged down in the corporate whining, technological minutiae, and legal hairsplitting can see it: peer-to-peer filesharing is a widespread act of civil disobedience, one that could completely transform the music industry."
That's a good way to put it: peer-to-peer file-sharing is "a widespread act of civil disobediance". |
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maddawg15
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:54 AM
i just a few minutes ago did a comando style poster posting on neihborhood stop signs and what not, just made a big one and the frame was made out of peices of card bord (hehe i know), its in a well walked and traveled area, so hopefully i can get some word out, just one problem, i forgot to put www.boycott-riaa.com and other websites, (oops). |
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jcalvert247
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:55 AM
I've seen how the industry works and how little money bands actually make from CD sales. Touring is where the bands actually make the money, as most of you well know, but that becomes an issue when the band doesn't get tour support from their record label, then they get dropped because they can't tour to support their new album. New artists get screwed.
I anxiously anticipate the fall of the Universal Music Group, I really do. It will be a great day when indy labels are running the show. Then the RIAA shuts down. In the meantime - support local music in your city. They don't care HOW you hear their music. |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:55 AM
Once again from the planet garth forum, now the administrator is trying to shut me up. . .
You need to read this --
http://www.planetgarth.com/forums/showthread.php?p=278419
Originally Posted by wampumfactory
As I said producer J, if you don't like the fact that the FACTS are proving your stance to be well um WRONG, and you don't like that the EVIDENCE ISN'T on your side, and that the public tide IS TURNING against your position, ( along with the governmental tide I might add) then by all means BURY it so no one can see it!
It was obvious what you were doing. And will be obvious to anyone who reads the posts.
The thread may not be about Garth. But it is timely. And it deserves to stay.
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Threads are catagorized by the content. You first posted this thread in the main forum purely because Garth is one of the RIAA members. This topic is not Garth related. The topic you are so steadfastly discussing is RIAA not Garth.
ProducerJ and I discussed this before the thread was moved. I too felt it should be moved to the proper forum for discussion.
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wampumfactory
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As I said, you can use whatever excuse you see fit. But I can assure you that any intelligent person will see it for what it is-- an attempt to squelch the free expression of dissenters. Be my guest. You have obviously learned nothing from what is happening with the RIAA.
You are starting to look a lot like them. If you don't like what is being said and it doesn't support your position, strong arm it, control it, get rid of it, bury it as far as you can, timely or not!
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jcalvert247
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:56 AM
I bet riaa.com stays down for the better part of the day tomorrow! |
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jcalvert247
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:00 AM
And if anyone wants to see a more communist point of view, check this out:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/08/07/findlaw.analysis.hamilton.music/index.html |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:08 AM
jcalvert:
I saw that article. You have to remember that shes a LAWYER. And you know that old joke "What do you call 1,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?"
A good start |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:08 AM
Lawyers aren't human anyway or they couldn't do what they do FOR MONEY |
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RythmMethod
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:09 AM
of course they will, they are nothing but fucking cowards who use their purchased congressmen to do their bidding.......L'arse, L'arse...where the hell is that boy? ROFLMAO....I wish I could find that story again. |
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jcalvert247
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:10 AM
That music amnesty thing is crap(www.musicunited.org), too. "Gee, let me give you my name and info so that you can search for me".
Yeah. I'll get right on that. |
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woodhead
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:14 AM
wampumfactory
isnt this censorship?????
Man these guys want NONE of usto come in. Oh well the Riaa is doing more damage to themselves and their "ARTIST"
right now than any one.
They are a little hyper sensitve right now, they want to be left alone, WA WA WA WA WAAAAAAAAA. Please don't turn our hard core fans on us WA WA WA WAAAAAAA! |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:14 AM
LOL jacalvert 2 funny!! |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:15 AM
I don't know if the page on TechTV that I was looking at is up to date, but I think the RIAA has expanded it's list of names to 800. |
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isp-privacy
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:17 AM
When this boycott movement turns the spicket off of the RIAA funds, I just hope the politicians are taking a good look at this. Because they will be the next on the list with an election year comming up! And as for Mr. Bainbowel or what ever his name is (the new RIAA CEO,} I think he just stepped out of a frying pan and into a fire!
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:17 AM
Oh yes, the Nashville Correspondent for Garth Brooks on Planet Garth is really giving me a hard time. Move my Boycott the Riaa and Garth Brooks thread right to the Back Porch. I was posting newspaper articles to support my position. They didn't like it all. |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:18 AM
When I told him that was censorship, he brought in the Administrator. LOL |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:19 AM
They aren't looking very good at the moment |
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woodhead
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:22 AM
Well they have control over that site but you got our message across if even for a bit. I bet you made some people think who go there, good job buddy, you rock. |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:24 AM
My most recent letter to Mr. Sherman:
You really aren't looking very good Mr. Sherman. You really should learn to take advice from PR professionals when they tell you to take the high road instead of the low road.
AOL did a survey and 85% of those responding take a dismal view toward your hysterical law suit frenzy. Are you sure you aren't a woman? I mean after all, we are the ones accused of being over-emotional.
The truth is coming out. And it's not looking very good for the RIAA and the entertainment industry as a whole.
Sincerely
Robin |
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isp-privacy
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:25 AM
http://money.cnn.com/2003/09/10/technology/pirates/index.htm
This is a Dam lie!
click cnn money (Profiling the music pirates) |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:27 AM
I am a seller on ebay as well. I posted this on my auctions:
On a personal note: The wampumfactory is joining the consumer boycott of the RIAA, member artists, and music labels, as well as retailers of said music, for its recent actions of 1) invading the privacy of mainstream Americans through subpoenas to force ISP's, colleges, and universities to provide personal information & 2) for launching lawsuits targeted at mainstream American families, grandfathers, unemployed women, and teenagers in an effort to bankrupt them. It is our belief that the RIAA could have found alternate and less provacative methods including but not limited to Public Service Announcements to dissuade the public from file sharing, rather than ruthless legal attacks. |
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woodhead
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:27 AM
I think we are supposed to stay on post.
YOu are kickina** so if you want to talk go to the forums, but I am loving your attitude andI still say you rock!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:28 AM
Mr. privacy, the link didn't work. |
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gdZiemann
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:30 AM
Peer-to-peer file-sharing is "a widespread act of civil disobediance"? Against which law?
What is a library then? When does borrowing a book (a bound physical "file" of a manuscript) become felony theft? Or treason? When you take it out of the building? Or as soon as you read it? |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:31 AM
LOL when you copy it and hand it to a friend. |
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woodhead
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:32 AM
gdZiemann
good to have you back, and now, we fight the goodfight. |
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ILUVELPEES
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 2:01 AM
Wampum - drop the on your browser, then all links here will work. |
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directive
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 2:02 AM
George,
What the RIAA did this week will hopefully boost your interest in fighting the RIAA! I ALREADY SEE TONS OF MORE POSTS HERE AND HOPE THIS WEBSITE GROWS AND GROWS, I remember when the posts were slow and low, but thanks to the media and the RIAA, this SITE will never be the same. |
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ILUVELPEES
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 2:02 AM
It didn't show up!! Drop the last 4 digits on your url link (a lesser than sign, b, r, greater than sign) |
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Alaskaa
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 2:10 AM
Library. My files that I rotate onto Bearshare are simply my personal library that I am loaning to you out there. Just like the stuffy bitch 3 doors down from here that won't let us board on city property. She has "files" that they share, but it is all Mozart crap that nobody cares about anyway. |
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Alaskaa
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 2:13 AM
Is there any way we can mail-bomb the IRA ... oh ... RIAA and bog them down? Tell me... |
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7thekid7
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 2:20 AM
And they looked with forward-looking vision...and saw the snake die its last gasp...The Song of the Ages Come True!!!...and THE PEOPLE SHOUTED WITH JOY!!!
FREEDOM RINGS -- and MUSIC FREE -- the riaa's doomed strategy FAILED FOR ALL TO SEE!!!
We're not thieves -- but we know the pirates' ways...argh! ;) |
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spooky1
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 2:55 AM
How's your Bill coming along code? |
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Outoftouch
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 2:56 AM
I've already put a "BOYCOTT-RIAA.COM" sign on my backpack, using WordPad and a stapler :) |
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shinkaide
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 3:21 AM
With all the props given to you guys, I don't know if mine will count. But I will give it anyway.
Great letter, guys. It really made my day. :) |
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Draken
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 4:19 AM
well i kinda found this interesting, every major media and entertainment stock is down, and i bet the trend continues! hey RIAA, thanks for helping these companies start sliping and loosing ground and money in the stock market! thats SOOO nice of you, now, when they file for chapter 8 *i think* we know who to thank, so we won't have to listen to all that filler music on the radio anymore! i could have told ya the best money making setup you could have, padded your pockets and everyones around you, but you are to shortsighted to care about that, so once you are gone, and we have good indie music selling in the stores, and the music we want to hear is played on the radio, once again we will know who to thank. when we see madona and britney and christina all out on the street corner trying to make ends meet, yet again guess what! we will know who to thank :) see, it's not US you are hurting, it's your precious artists, wo were never going to see a penny of this BS anyway! so cary sue, we thank you from the bottom of our filesharing loving, indie artist supporting, we are tired of filler music on cds and want good music now, hearts
United WE Stand
Draken |
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Howski
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 5:09 AM
Q.I.D. |
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Cyneburgleah
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 5:21 AM
Very well put and to the point letter.
I have to let you know that you are indeed gaining support from those who until the lawsuit bs starting happening knew little about RIAA or Boycotting The RIAA. I am one of those people. For years now I have downloaded music. Mostly I wanted to make sure the album was worth buying first and get songs I could not get anywhere else. Since I started file swapping I have bought more cds then I ever did before. However I will no longer be buying any RIAA cds aside from used versions of artists I really love. The RIAA are truely idiots! They think that if they stop file sharing then sales will go up because no one can live without music. The only thing they are accomplishing is losing more sales as people who were unaware wake up.
CYNE |
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Draken
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 5:32 AM
very well said Cyne, i was the same way at one time, never been rich, but spent on avarage between $750 and $1000 per year on CDs for several years, i have over 11,500 songs on my computer, most of which i have ripped from my CDs, d/led a few concerts, and stuff you can't buy in the US, and as of late, LOTS of indie music, and alot of it out there is better then mainstreem stuff anyway, they write it cause they want to be heard, just like alot of other artists that become major names...if you notice their early stuff is the good stuff, then then get under pressure by their label to make them more money, so they start spouting this filler crap we hear on so many CDs today, sorry, i just don't want to hear it, i know they can do better then that...*shrugs* but thats me, there are still alot of sheep out there with the wool still pulled over their eyes |
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freedom2thep...
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 6:18 AM
Hello everyone and good morning to all. I am new to this site but I feel right at home! I have been on the site for about 3 hours now reading posts and learning more on the things I really didn't have a clue on. I've read TONS of posts and threads praising this movement and also some putting it down, saying it's already over to give it up. Well here's my opinion... For the person who has doubt in there hearts.. For the person who has given up before the real battle has even begun.. The fight IS already over for you *In EVERY part of life*! But for the person who has hope, courage, and the determination to see something through - to THAT person will come victory! And I believe with all my heart the people WILL have victory over the injustices of the RIAA! Just as the American people will have victory over injustices of terrorism... for the people who say "the fight is already over, there's no way we can win" I want to thank you... If not for people like you then the people with the TRUE spirit of FREEDOM in there hearts may forget why we continue to fight! Millions of people speaking with 1 voice cannot be defeated and we will not give up over the ramblings of those who are too coward to stand up for there rights! Thank you all for standing up against the RIAA and all injustices in this world.. it's because of you we have the freedoms we still have! God Bless and Peace Out!
P.S. A 12 year old girl? Come on RIAA!! You REALLY screwed yourself with that one! You will NEVER outspeak the 1 voice of millions that are coming after you now.
*Freedom2ThePeople* |
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luthien
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 6:42 AM
Was out shopping last night and noticed the price of CDs and DVDs in the highstreet stores (in the UK). Full price single disk albums cost anywhere between £14 and £16 in HMV. Although the DVDs cost around £18 - £20 at full price, most had some sort of discount (from buy one get one free, down to ones for £6.99). The main discount on DVDs was a huge range offered at 3 for £20, and in the next aisle they had the same offer on CDs! Surely DVDs cost much more to make than CDs, and films definitely cost more than music to produce, yet highstreet stores are on average selling them at comparable prices???
How can they justify NOT cutting the price of CDs here when they just did it in the US???
*****£15 approximates to $24 USD, so we are being SCREWED on CDs EVEN MORE than you people in the US***** |
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CodeWarrior
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 7:27 AM
IsCaRiOtMyJuDaS- YOU ROCK!!!!! :)
and ghosthouse- liked the JRR references...anything you can do to promote the fight is cool with me :)
spooky...I've gotten slack on working on the bill..and I apologize for that. Unfortunately, other things got in the way. When I am doing legal writing, I can't do it in spurts, the way I do is just sit down for hours and work on it, because it takes a certain mindset.
Heffie did some work on it, and I need to get his work and see where he is with it.
thepick and fucary great letters...and everyone else...just great stuff!
Z-Man, George, good to see you man!
It's like "old home week" with you back in the fray! :)
As for the letter at the top..GREAT..now THAT's the guy I wanna see on TechTV! PS, as of last nite, they still had not gotten confirmation that the RIAA would be there..lol..maybe they heard Bill was coming after all!
and so it goes..
~code |
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seraphielx
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 7:31 AM
ok kats you wanna play....
im talking about war dialers here,put that old 56k modem to work
http://www.twistedinternet.com/archive-files/Telephony/ |
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seraphielx
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 7:33 AM
ok if were wanting to ping do it this way
under xp go to run type in cmd then type in ping -t with the ip address
that will keep it going for a while,you can do the same with windows 98
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djjayo1
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 8:43 AM
Z-Man it's great to see ya back,
We need to double our efforts, as I am assured you are all doing. Contact your congressmen, newspapers, local tv stations, get the word out.
I love going into the mall or book store wearing a boycott-riaa shirt and have people stop and ask me what it is. I was at Borders books over the weekend and a clerk asked me about it. The group of people behind of various ages, before I had a chance to comment, jumped in and said stuff like "There the record labels trying to sue everyone", I don't buy cd's anymore because of them", "Yeah, buy inde music"
It was like the twilight zone, The said everything I was going to say. I felt like I was at a rally or something. It was so freakin cool.
The word is getting out. Keep up the good work. |
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ghosthouse
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 8:57 AM
Technology... is a queer thing. It brings you great gifts with one hand, and it stabs you in the back with the other. ~C.P. Snow, New York Times, 15 March 1971
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Ripandburn
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 9:12 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/09/10/bus2.feat.cd.save/index.html |
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tomsong
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 9:29 AM
Hey Wampumfactory, good job. You may want some more ammunition, so here goes.
Gart Brooks as you recall was making public noises about his retirement. This was in the midst of his contentious contract renegotiation (and after his Chris Gaines fiasco, it was understandably difficult to up his price)--but his public statement was, "I don't need a recording career, if I can't get my own record label to stop putting digital masters on the shelves (cd's.) I won't re-sign until they inform me how they will stop theft."
Garth has been very upfront about his hatred of file sharing. He was one of the only two or three artists that the Recording Artists Coalition and RIAA could find who would add their names and comments to the fullpage "educational" ads they ran two years ago.
It seems disingenuous that the Planet Garth admins would claim that the RIAA thread is off-topic, when Garth is just about the only artist the RIAA could find who publicly supported their efforts. |
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wabbitman
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 9:54 AM
Great letter guys, can't think of anything else to add. Well done!
Good to see you George , and great posts!
WABBITMAN |
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ldjollyroger
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 9:58 AM
Most grocery stores, Wal-MArts, what-not that I've been to have a bulletin board somewhere close to the entrance-a place people put up "car for sale" and "lost dog" ads.
I've been putting up the "truth" pages from this site on those boards-I noticed they come back down pretty fast at stores that sell RIAA-distributed music, but that's all right-printing is cheap.
Everyone should be doing it-the log at the top of the page catches the eye, and the words of truth spark interest in what these greedy f*cks are actually up to. |
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crazyguy19
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 10:08 AM
I've been reading these boards for quite sometime now and I think it's great to see such a strong community with a great cause. I've started telling everyone I know about this site and what it stands for.
As for letting the people behind the RIAA know directly what we think, I believe that writting letters and emails are a great idea. Even calling them directly, I think Code or someone else has posted the phone numbers. But I was wondering has anyone found out there home or cell phone numbers? I think it would be great if all of a sudden they started recieving hundreds of calls. I've been pretty busy as of late, so I havn't really looked into it, but I'm sure that if there is anyone out there that can find these numbers then they will be on these boards. |
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seraphielx
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 10:17 AM
ok kats i got the progs loaded at
http://216.30.197.37/toolz/ |
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jcalvert247
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 10:24 AM
ldjollyroger - that is an excellent idea!
Most record stores have bulletin boards...
:)
- J |
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jcalvert247
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 10:31 AM
Outstanding Article
http://www.easternecho.com/cgi-bin/story.cgi?3012
Short summary - Universal is dropping it's CD MSRP by $4.00 (to around 12.99), because the recognize that if they keep pissing people off, they're going to go out of business. |
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Anti-RIAA
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 10:41 AM
Oh yeah and here's the email I sent to the RIAA. I'd like to hear what some of you people wrote to! Here goes.....
I just wanted to let you know that I am boycotting you and all record labels affiliated with you for the rest of my life. I will never again buy one of your inflated fixed-priced cds again. You are the most disgraceful company I have ever known. Suing your own customers is the most asinine, counterproductive thing I have ever heard of in my life. Do not blame p2p for your profit losses, blame your archaic, failing business model and the boycott which you fail to acknowledge. You consistently screw the artists and your customers, and for that you will fail. I am ashamed that our government is actually influenced by such a greedy, pathetic entity as yourself. May God have mercy on your souls. |
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vaseline
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 11:01 AM
Hi guys,
Look what I found here:
www.whitepages.com
Sherman, Cary
Aliso Viejo, CA 92656
(949) 831-7470
Before you fry him, please be shure this is the right person. |
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TheSherminator
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 11:04 AM
This is worth sharing.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3079908.stm
Every week or so I check out BBC news. When this first began stirring up in July, there were a great many posts underneath the articles which bashed pirates. Now look at it. |
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derrickzoola...
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 11:21 AM
Hi everyone,
I'm from the uk so this doesn't really affect me (yet!) but i heard a lot of talk about bringing down the servers....i had a look and to me they look pretty much solid not that i was going to do anything anyway! if anyone wants to know how to anonimise themselves and use mail bombing for your plans tomorrow this is the best link i've found...
http://www.geocities.com/r4m5e5/email1.htm
also try www.astalavista.com but it doesn't appear to be accepting hits at the moment although it's still 'alive'....
good luck to you i hate these suckers aswell, at the very least they'll destroy themselves after this mess!
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Draken
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 11:24 AM
ok, i just got done reading the news on Wired, and i'm tired of their biased reporting, so i sent them a letter stating this as follows:
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i'm tired of seeing all the biased reports of the RIAA, i have used wired news for tech news for several years now, and this RIAA propaganda covarage is getting on my nerves. you have very little information about the otherside of the fight, the huge boycott that is going on at www.boycott-riaa.com, or the petition thats at: http://www.petitiononline.com/riaawar/. i'm asking, just how much is the RIAA putting in Wired's pockets? when i look to large news sources, i understand that everyone is biased in one way or another, but their reporting should not reflect that and offer a fair covarage of BOTH sides of the coin, i share music files all the time, MANY of them, but every last on is an independent artist that WANTS their music to get out to the public. also, i have seen VERY little mention about the actions us consumers are taking aganst the RIAA, or the fact the RIAA has publicly stated that all the moeny they recive will NOT be going to help the artists, or going to the artists at all, but they are going to pocket it and use it to sue *and alienate* more people. or how about your biz editors posting a story about who bad of a biz model this really is, and about the major decline in CD sales since they started their *we're gods, don't mess with us* campaign. the fact of the matter is, the RIAA has no intention of getting the artists money, they are trying to make up for the lost money in THEIR pockets, they have no artistic talents of their own, so they leach off of others, and they are seeing the fact that if people aren't willing to listen to music cause of their *big boys with filler music* aren't producing new stuff, they have to resort to new tatics to make their money. the RIAA is a dinosaur, and they are unwilling to evolve, they should either get with the times or get out of the way.
thank you for reading this, and hope you will follow through and start having more unbiased reporting in the future
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well for one i didn't know it was that long lol but anyway, i hope someone there reads it and it gets its point across
and another thing, i'm getting worried that some people are getting out of hand, mass email and pinging is great way to make us heard, but war dialers are pushing it, lets not make ourselves look like bad guys, and lets not give them anything they could use for ammo as they fight us, the WINNING side.
United WE Stand |
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jcalvert247
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 11:43 AM
What bothers me the most is that the RIAA and record labels keeps saying that the artists are "not mega-millionaires" and all that nonsense.
We know they're not, because you're taking all of their money! I don't feel that I'm stealing from the artists, especially those who work for a major label. After an artist records their songs, they become the intellectual property of...you guessed it...the record labels. I'l like to know how much Cary Sherman, Mitch Bainwol, and Hilary Rosen make/made in a single year. Or how about Doug Morris or Jimmy Iovine? I bet it's WAY more than most number one selling artists. |
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bantam
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 11:58 AM
How can you go and give a child a warrent for arrest for a CHILDS song he or she loaded from the internet !!!???!! That is wrong, I hope the RIAA comes here zo Germany and tries that SH-T!!! File sharing is frowned apon, but it is in noway so drastic as it is with you guys over there.What the RIAA is doing , is not going to help the record industy, only hurt it more. I for one will never ever buy another cd as long as I live. Why should I??? The RiAA is about as legal as the C.I.A. The J.F.K. thing was never solved ,was it ??? Money is there backbonealong with thratning CHILDREN and OLD PEOPLE ( that is low)
What is next, illegal radio ?!?!?!
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Jazzmary2U
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:02 PM
..Thanks, Jon! :thumbsup: I bet one of the Riaa websnoops has scoped this already and had read it.. :clue: Their reaction? :banghead: |
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bantam
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:05 PM
The RIAA says that the file sharing of music takes money from the people who wrote the songs, not Jimmy Hendrix, he is dead, Elvis. I will bet the RIAA has gotten complaints from the both of them. |
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CodeWarrior
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:09 PM
David Bowie said :
"You don't sue your customers." |
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seraphielx
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:09 PM
jegas@riaa.com
EGAS, JACK
+1-202-775-0101
the oters must be in that format as well....time to give them all hell |
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Jazzmary2U
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:10 PM
You WHOMP 'em, wampum. :fright::smash: |
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jcalvert247
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:11 PM
It would be funny if a bunch of people sued the RIAA seperately. Tie them up in court so that they can't keep up their own campaign. They'd go broke keeping their lawyers paid. |
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Jazzmary2U
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:14 PM
Code, George, Thumb, and all you veteran, wise posters:
Postin', postin', postin'
Guys, you keep a'postin'
The Riaa is a-roastin'
CAN'T HIDE!! (Whip-crack) :cowboy::bbq::cowgirl: |
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babweiser
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:29 PM
RIAA, The "PITBULL" that bit the 12 year old girl, They must be put down and soon since they threaten to bite all of us that have ever downloaded on the internet. Their archaic approach to new technology appalls me! Are they too thick headed to understand we the music listening public don't want their stupid cd's anymore! This is the new millenium, if they can't supply our needs then they should "step aside" and let somebody that can do it. I would gladly embrace a site like audio galaxy used to be and pay a yearly fee to be a member as long as it was resonable. But these greedy morons who over the years have been supported solely by us "the music loving puplic" now threatens to harm all of us, including our children! Have they no moral decency? Are they to stupid to understand their biting the hand that feeds them. They are an ugly dragon that must be slain and we can all take part in this process!!! STOP BUYING CD'S IMMEDIATLY |
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seraphielx
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:31 PM
email addressess.
jegas@riaa.com
csherman@riaa.com
rames@riaa.com
jvalenti@riaa.com
mail server:12.150.191.36
any questions? |
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seraphielx
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:33 PM
EGAS, JACK
+1-202-775-0101
jegas@riaa.com |
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scayf
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:37 PM
Gee...I've been trying to pull up riaa.com & riaa.org...but...for some strange reason...it's loading soooo sloooow...and then I got:
"The page cannot be displayed"
We have the power, and they fear us. Keep up the pressure. |
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f-the-riaa
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 12:58 PM
scayf, you need to download "Slow Ride" by Foghat and dedicate it to the RIAA. It's going to be a very unejoyable slow ride for the RIAA.
Everyone, e-mail your friends and family about the boycott and this site.
Geometric progression!!
Got to get back to more file downloading.....need those christmas presents
me: 3000 files and counting
RIAA $0.00 |
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baazulbub
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:03 PM
suing 12 year olds and grand parents? The only way to stop the RIAA is to hit them where it really hurts...The wallet. If enough people agree to not spend one dime on CDs, tapes, or concerts for the rest of the year, that might send a message. |
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seraphielx
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:03 PM
there down
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allan1850
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:35 PM
damn them it is up again, i wish i was a hacker |
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justed
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:57 PM
(Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:09 AM – EDST)
RythmMethod: “of course they will, they are nothing but fucking cowards who use their purchased congressmen to do their bidding.......L'arse, L'arse...where the hell is that boy? ROFLMAO....I wish I could find that story again.”
Try this link (about two thirds of the way down – currently):
http://ajustedquestion.blogspot.com/
posted by J. at 8/13/2003
justed
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justed
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 2:01 PM
You can 'copy and paste' it, if it doesn't work (blush).
justed |
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Vladimyr
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 2:45 PM
Babweiser, as a responsible owner of the wonderful dogs known as pitbulls, or more correctly as the American Pitbull Terrier, please don't associate them with the RIAA.
Pitbulls are not bad dogs, they just get bad press thanks to those who would train them to be fighters instead of lovers. The RIAA on the other hand is a bad organization doing bad things by their own free will.
-V. |
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PisstAmerican
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 3:02 PM
This so called 'LAWYER' we have in the midst runnin around in here callin everyone 'Crybabies' apparently you side with those 'Crybabies' CUZ THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOIN'.. WE PAY THEIR BILLS, WE MAKE THEM WHO THEY ARE.. FOR US TO TAKE A LITTLE BACK FROM THEM.. WELL ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU 'LAWYERS' DO ANYWAY?.. go Cry your bullshit to someone else NOBODY WANTS YOUR LIES HERE! Lawyer = Professional Liar .. must be nice to get paid for it when most go down for it... TOO BAD IGNORANCE ISN'T ILLEGAL.... |
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wampumfactory
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 4:10 PM
TOMSONG:
I had no idea he did that when I went on planet Garth. Man, and to think of all those CD's that I have.
Thinking maybe since I live right down the highway from him, I might just go set up a picket in Collinsville OK. |
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Accipiter777
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 4:23 PM
Excellent Letter |
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crazyguy19
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 4:31 PM
Great article that talks about the artists speaking out against the RIAA and thier practices.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/09/11/MN12066.DTL |
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hackpiper
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 4:33 PM
I fired off a letter to my Senators and Congressman. Feel free to use it as a template to do the same.
Dear Senator/ Congressman
Over the past week, I have joined many other people in expressing alarm and dismay at the current tactics of the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) in its escalating program to combat copyright violations by users of peer-to-peer file sharing networks.
I wish to be clear on this: most sensible people certainly understand that such uncompensated distribution of music amounts to theft, and that it does indeed impact the entertainment field at a core economic level. Most of us would also agree that the RIAA can and should legitimately raise the issue and take action.
However, as we are today seeing in the news, the RIAA's draconian measures of subpeoning protected user information from the Internet...and then actually suing individuals is not only constitutionally suspect, it is proving to be wildly unfair. Thus we have the apalling spectacle of the RIAA launching lawsuits against a 12 year old girl...and a clueless grandfather.
I believe that the path now taken by the RIAA is simply unconstitutional as a violation of privacy rights. Beyond that, it's an ugly and sinister manipulation of a flawed legal system to harass citizens.
Certainly, we should expect the RIAA to act to protect the business interests of its members. But there must be a more reasonable way do so...instead of terrorizing the American public.
I hope that you agree, and that you will publicly challenge the RIAA's actions.
Sincerely,
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Funkareles
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 4:35 PM
I tried to go to RIAA.org (that is, before I found this site) looking for a good laugh :) It wasn't working, hmmm.... |
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boycottearth
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 4:40 PM
My only fear is that they will read the word "boycott" and throw the letter in the garbage. |
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Neo029
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 4:42 PM
Hey Guys read this!
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=industryNews&storyID=3429542 |
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Neo029
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 4:45 PM
RIAA spokesman Jonathan Lamy said the recording industry was not targeting 12-year-olds. The only information it had when it filed the suits was the name and address of the Internet account holder, he added.
"The objective of this campaign is not to win a popularity contest, but to communicate a message of deterrence so people realize there can be consequences to this illegal behavior," Lamy said.
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tds67
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 5:06 PM
"The objective of this campaign is not to win a popularity contest, but to communicate a message of deterrence so people realize there can be consequences to this illegal behavior," Lamy said.
I'm confused...is this a statement from a representative of the RIAA or a statement from a spokesperson for the DOJ regarding the collusion and price-fixing cases against the record labels? |
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Funkareles
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 5:06 PM
Hey Neo029, you mean that the RIAA isn't telling the investigators to specifically target 12 year olds? I thought they were telling them to "crack down on those little bitches, hard." Gee, what a revelation. Or, we could be protesting the 12 year old's prosecution because, maybe, just maybe, it wasn't the specific targeting, but the "shotgun" techniques used by the RIAA, that implicated the girl, and the old man. We are saying their strategy isn't working, it's just hurting innocents, and anyone else caught in the RIAA's Lawsuit harvesting operation! |
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napstersghost
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 5:56 PM
Arggggahhhhhh! The RIAA website is up again! Somebody take it down! It's lies are burning my eyes! |
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scayf
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 6:06 PM
f-the-riaa... I've got a better tune for the RIAA:
Ted Nugent's "Stranglehold".
Boycott CD purchase for the remainder of the year. Bleed 'em good... |
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StillNotBlac...
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 6:11 PM
Very well written gentlemen! I applaud you!
Now that the mainstream understands our cause, we can step this up a few notches by seeing to it that all of the RIAA "pocket-pals" in congress are taken out of thier seats in the next election cycle for rewriting laws for the explicit benefit of the RIAA/MPAA. I will do my part, I swear to GOD ALMIGHTY, to see that the Senators and Representatives from my State (Louisiana) are not given the chance to become further corrupted by special interests that seek to strip away the Rights and Priveledges that our forebearers gave to us in the document entitled "The United States Constitution". |
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scayf
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 6:14 PM
"The objective of this campaign is not to win a popularity contest, but to communicate a message of deterrence so people realize there can be consequences to this illegal behavior," Lamy said.
There WILL be consequences, although not what the RIAA is expecting...
Immediate, full-blown boycott, for the rest of the year. That's the only way these weasels will learn...obliterate their bottom line. |
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qdox
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 8:25 PM
Hey, did anyone notice like I did how NOBODY mentions the fact that record sales were actually CLIMBING upwards when Napster was hitting its peak (How the hell do you explain a record as UN-commercial as Radiohead's KID A debuting at #1 with ZERO promotion, especially considering the whole album was out there for weeks before its release?), and didn't tank until immediately after it got disembowelled?
And did the RIAA ever consider the fact that some of that specious $10 billion loss could be attributed to the fact that the product getting the most hype has been complete and utter gobshite? |
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qdox
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 8:36 PM
And as far as the whole boycott thing goes, I'm all for it, but wouldn't it be easier to get LOTS of people on board if we did what the RIAA does? I.e. picking out one group to make an example of. I nominate Metallica; if a sudden and drastic drop in sales of everything Metallica occurred, not only would we get the pleasure of listening to Lars Ulrich moan about being unfairly singled out and that he's only speaking out to defend all the Indy bands that we're screwing out of their rent checks by our vicious and evil downloading...it would certainly scare the hell out of every other "artist" who's opened his/her/its mouth on the issue, they'd all be wondering if they're next... |
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StillNotBlac...
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 10:02 PM
qdox,
Nah, that would only harm Metalligreed! Lets pick out a "broad group" of artists like the RIAA did in it's initial filing of lawsuits, old bands and new ones alike (I say start with the teen sinsations, like Justin Timberfake and Chrsitina Ugulara, you know, their money-makers that have turned out senseless trash for several years now) and do exactly what they did in suing a twelve year old, go after the youth of the music industry! |
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screwriaa4life
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Date: September 11, 2003 @ 10:11 PM
you know what these foolz got a nigga pissed off. I know some of my roadawgz use Kazaa that p2p network. It's free I mean who in the world wouldn't take advantage of anything that's free. The RIAA is player hating drinking hateraide to the fullest. They talking about prosecuting people and sewing them and label them criminals. They need to refine their definition of stealing. The file sharers are not to blame for this issue. They want you to spend 18 dollars for a CD that only has the mainstream stuff you really don't want to hear. They talking about they losing money in record sales and these people are living the lives that normal people dream of. How in the hell they gon sue a 12 year old girl. They making a big deal out of this. Say for instance that Missy Elliott has a hit single with R. Kelly called Bedroom Swimming. It's hot and she does a remix of her hit and it has Lenny Kravitz along with pharrell. You can't get that off the main album. Some of the mixtapes don't have it so where do you go to the internet. That's where i hear about stuff. For you rap listeners out there make sure yall get that Damn Remix! Youngbloodz f/Ludacris, Bone Crusher |
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babweiser
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Date: September 12, 2003 @ 12:16 AM
Dear Vladimyr, Please accept my apology for the association of the RIAA to a pit bull, you are 100 per cent right! These idiots don't deserve it. |
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nailedshutpunk
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Date: September 12, 2003 @ 12:42 AM
mr cary sue why did you go after a 12 year old? was it because your child porn supplier bailed on you too? just like the american consumer? |
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nailedshutpunk
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Date: September 12, 2003 @ 12:46 AM
mr cary sue why did you go after a 12 year old? was it because your child porn supplier bailed on you too? just like the american consumer? |
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Alaskaa
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Date: September 12, 2003 @ 1:58 AM
riaa.com The bastards 'ave bin don all day, on an off that is. Like it plenty, I do. Some bloke aut there care to tell 'ow this "ping" thing works. Be specific like yer talkin' to an idiut will ya.
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Alaskaa
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Date: September 12, 2003 @ 2:13 AM
Okay. Always looking for a new way of looking at this. If I turn on the radio to 100.5 The Bore, and I record onto cassette, that's cool. If I have a radio station and I play that cassette over the airwaves, that is cool. If the guy down the street records this off his radio, that is cool. If he rebroadcasts it over his radio station that is cool. That's what we do. Nothing different.
Things change. If you go to the RIAA site, and you actuallly get onto the site.. heh heh ... there is an article where some guy that used to own a bunch of music shops is now out of business. Okay, boo hoo. They don't sell 8 tracks or 12" vinyl anymore, and CDs may soon join that, being replaced by mp3 files from th internet.
I have not bought a single retail CD since Metallica got pissed at the patron saint of P2P, Saint Napster.
RIAA mud slingers.. F### O##!!!
I have plenty to listen to just cleaning and organizing my cache of songs.
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StandAndFight
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Date: September 12, 2003 @ 3:21 AM
Hear is a great arguement for boycotting any Label assiciated with the RIAA. For every purchase you make from an Associated Label, you are helping to fund the very Lawsuites that are targeting your friends, family, and yourself! I for one, will have not one penny of my hard earned money go to any of these Terroristic Lawsuites! |
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teach54
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Date: September 12, 2003 @ 8:46 AM
I live in the arse end of the planet and some of the stuff i'd like i just cant get without paying an arm and three legs to get from civilisation. Especially if i only want one song |
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luthien
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Date: September 12, 2003 @ 9:33 AM
OOH!!! good point StandAndFight, never thought of it from that angle!!!
DON'T FUND LAWSUIT TERRORISTS!!!!! |
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theerm
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Date: September 12, 2003 @ 10:04 AM
Unfortunatly the RIAA, and the MPAA control the media/news (tv at least) so I'm sure the'll put there slant on it.
Artists Against the RIAA
http://noriaa.the-erm.com |
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f-the-riaa
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Date: September 12, 2003 @ 2:18 PM
FM broadcasters, power amps, and antennas are available at
www.ramseyelectronics.com
they have everything from cheap "mr microphones" to commercial broadcast grade equipment
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