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RIAA launches Midwest 'mix' raids
The first part of Village Voice writer Douglas Wolk's A Void Named Sued is several pars on "don't make your hard drive's contents available to other P2P users — find a service that allows you to turn file-sharing off," etc - in other words, they're more more an excuse to use the headline than anything else.
But once he gets that out of the way, Wolk says the RIAA is now raiding Midwestern record stores that carry DJ mixes.
Mix CDs are usually sold by the DJs themselves and, "being authorized by star artists is no longer good enough".
On September 23, Berry's Music in Indianapolis, Indiana, was raided, Wolk says, going on:
"According to proprietor Alan Berry, police confiscated $10,000 worth of mix discs by the likes of DJ World and DJ Paul Bunyan. 'The record labels want the independent record stores out of the business,' Berry says. 'They'd rather deal with Target, Best Buy, Circuit City—it's consolidation, just like any other industry. The RIAA knows that mixes are an integral part of urban stores' culture and profit margin. By eliminating them, they can eliminate a lot of indie stores'."
City Music, also in Indianapolis, was raided on October 1, Wolk goes on, quoting manager Jerome Avery as saying, "They came in and took anything that was on a recordable CD. The only DJ mixes I had were behind the counter for personal listening, and they confiscated them. How can it be illegal if the artist is making them for the street? They came without a notice — no warrant, no nothing. They're making up their own laws, if you ask me."
The City Music raid happened the day Universal's new prices went into effect — "more bad news for small, independent record stores," Wolk states. "Universal's widely publicized $9.09 wholesale prices only apply to the largest retail chains, and only to stores that are willing to buy 30 copies of a disc at one time. Most smaller stores, though, deal with 'one-stop' sub-distributors that can fill orders for a disc or two quickly, and take a markup of their own. And many retailers are frustrated that customers have been coming in for weeks, asking where their $9 CDs are.
Wolk says Eric Haight of Record World in Petoskey, Michigan, notes that a new Sting album before the price drop cost the store $12.69, with a suggested retail price of $18.98. Now it costs them $10.79, with a retail price of $12.98 — the profit margin has been slashed by almost two-thirds, and Universal will no longer help them out with advertising costs.
"I think their motives are suspect," Haight states. "This won't affect the Best Buys of the world, but I can't see our store making it through 2004."
User Comments
(These do not necessarily reflect the beliefs of this site)
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-PATHOS-
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 11:26 AM
only thing missing are SS insignias on the uniforms and a hearty "Heil Hitler" |
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compmore
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 11:45 AM
totally disgusting. I thought artists sanctoned music not recorded by the labels was legal? does that mean that furthernet is illegal now?? gosh I see a class action lawsuit coming on. One can only hope |
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Nexus7
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 11:51 AM
The first thing to come to mind is exactly what -PATHOS- said... Next stop: CD burning, and not the good kind! |
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-PATHOS-
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 11:52 AM
LOL!! well put nexus7 |
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fossil
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 11:56 AM
We frequently use CD-R discs to send out custom demos of our work (we do not do mixes). If we ever learn of any of our CD's being seized (my mistake) as a result of a larger such raid we will sue...and the suit will be anti-trust. |
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axxis
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 12:19 PM
If they didn't show a warrant of some kind before they did their little jankers, then they have violated those stores' rights, and should file suit in court against them IMMEDIATELY. |
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33gles
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 12:25 PM
WTF, these cases better get thrown out of court. If they dont, the City of Indianapolis might be oweing someone more than its entire annual budget in civil lawsuit penalties. I hope so. Someone should fu(( the system like that, just to get people's attention. Also....since when does the RIAA have the authority to order police raids? When was the constitution changed to make big business a branch of government? |
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33gles
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 12:29 PM
So...lemme get this straight.....The artist gives permission....but the RIAA says NO, not good enough, "We want the money"......but the RIAA claims to have been doing this for "the artists".......so.......the RIAA definition of "artists" are their accountants?
We've seen where this is going.
How does one go about filing an anti-trust lawsuit anyway?
And which indie label/film studios want to jump in and cluster-ferk the RIAA and MPAA.
Both "organizations" have slopped so much evidence around that they've practically hung themselves, if anyone can bring it up in court.
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boycotter
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 12:47 PM
ughhhhhhh it just get's worse and worse :(( we just have to keep doing our part in boycotting them darn it.. and I wanted to buy the Lion King DVD.. welp that's off my list for a long long time gotta remember these big companies are hurting themselves and I'm willing to sacrifice my wants! :P~~~~~ RIAA and MPAA
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tds67
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 12:53 PM
On what legal basis can they do this? Are these tracks that have already been recorded through the RIAA record companies? Or are they NEW songs that the RIAA has never touched? If so, how can they do this? |
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woodhead
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 12:54 PM
This is an outrage! the RIAA is trying to kill of the little gut know. Seems to me like they will not stop until they have complete control of what we listen to or buy or where we but it. Down with the RIAA I say |
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jewelbox
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 12:55 PM
If anybody else in the private sector pulled something like this, the courts, and the goverment would be all over them. Hell, the cops can't even get away with it. But the terrorists from the RIAA can? They sure as hell have someone in Washington bought and paid for. I wonder who? |
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gdZiemann
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 12:59 PM
Personally, I think the actions of the RIAA have now risen beyond antitrust into racketeering. Time for me to go check out the RICO statutes. |
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stopthemadness
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 1:00 PM
in the world of the RIAA everyones a pirate. pretty soon they will be busting down the doors to every household in the country. taking everyones audio and video collections and destroying them. permission or not. the above article is a good example of terrorism in our own land that is being legalized by the DMCA policy. the RIAA powers are broadening and they are striking the iron while it's hot because the terrorism will be eventually be stopped by the government. we the people need to stand up for our rights. we our being violated before our very own eyes and something has to be done about it. boycott RIAA/MPAA, bring them down to their knees monetarily. |
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purfus
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 1:28 PM
http://www.angelfire.com/ab7/shermanthenazi/images/shermans_a_nazi.jpg
HEIL!!!! |
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purfus
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 1:30 PM
Blahh, somethings up with the link, cut and paste the address. |
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bulkeraser
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 1:45 PM
weeks ago, CodeWarrior said that we could expect to see the RIAA getting the police involved in their actions around Thanksgiving . Looks like they even got earlier than Code's timetable.
People, this situation is not funny, and is not going away by itself. We each have to put as much heat on congress as we can to put a stop to this runaway train of horror called the RIAA! |
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gdZiemann
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 3:35 PM
Wonder if any of these record store owners have surveillance footage of the warrantless search and seizure. |
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ILUVELPEES
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 3:49 PM
This gets the RIAA one step closer to being able to raid houses, I feel. Someone needs to set up an organization to keep this megalomania in check. It better happen quick or many more stories of this ilk will become the norm. This is getting out of control way to quickly and it leaves a very queasy feeling in the pit of my stomach. This stuff should NOT be happening in this country. |
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RythmMethod
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 4:25 PM
It was a cold dark night. We were all huddled together in the middle of the room while the troops stomped around our home, tossing drawers into the floor, taking their daggers and ripping open our furniture, pulling the feathers out of our pillows, searching, searching..... We sat huddled in terror as we watched the storm troopers escort our leaders out into the dark, wearing 9 mm luger earrings......No this isn't a world war one story..it's a story of the RIAA looking for "unauthorized" CD's. Seig Heil!! |
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NiceGuy2003
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 4:34 PM
If they try this bs on me they'll meet my friend the Louisville Slugger.
No one searches my home without a warrant signed by a judge. |
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RythmMethod
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 4:55 PM
Looks like the next revolution won' t be about food or water after all....RIAA is getting dangerously close to becoming a target for someone who gets pushed over the edge.....what was that old Van Voght novel where hundreds of terminally ill people executed a mass assassination of hated world leaders and government figures at a predesignated time? It was like hey, throw us in prison and you pay our medical bills, life sentences mean nothing, nor do death penalties, except that execution would be preferrable to dying of cancer....this shit is getting creepy.... |
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purfus
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 6:31 PM
these basterds have been doing this stuff for a long time. almost a hundred years now. As far as a mass assination goes you would need to kill a lot of innocent people to do it. Why because these corrupted people hide behind the innocent like a sheild. It's a sad situation. Makes terrorism look like a pretty small problem. That is of course only true if your not one of the people being manipulated and/or paid off. What we need is more people fighting the battle. We need to protest. It's vietnam all over again. We will all be labled and lots of our lives will be ruined. But if enough of us make our voices heard they cant fight us forever. |
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purfus
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 6:31 PM
As far as them coming into my home. Over my dead body. |
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r0dr0ddy
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 6:41 PM
Um, isn't entering and taking material from record stores (or anywhere else) without a warrant stealing? Shouldn't those involved in "confiscating" be considered cold, hard criminals? Just a legal thought...
I know several DJs and indie shops in Chicago where I buy music (and mix CDs) from. The majority of music on mix CDs DO NOT BELONG TO RIAA LABELS!!! Not to mention now club goers and DJs like myself have no way of being exposed to the most progressive music. This hits me personally... I'm sick to my stomach. |
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scayf
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 6:56 PM
Boys & girls, the 8th Amendment no longer exists. |
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ILUVELPEES
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 8:54 PM
Too true, scayf, and whats the next amendment to go after that one?
The 4th Reich is the Recording Industry Association of America. |
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scayf
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Date: October 8, 2003 @ 11:22 PM
My guess is the First, which is hanging on by a thread.
Freedom of the Press...are you kidding???
Freedom of Speech...careful what you say...never know who's listening (or reading your email/chat).
Freedom of Religion...not in a government building, you don't!
I miss my America. |
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woodhead
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Date: October 9, 2003 @ 12:37 AM
well with all this about your rights, it is time to register and vote, vote , vote vote. This is the only way we can make our voices heard.
I am back and ready to rumble, right your reps in Washington, your news papers and spread the word and lets get this party going.
no rest for the wicked, and no rest for us, down with the RIAA
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independentm...
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Date: October 9, 2003 @ 9:32 AM
The RIAA has always wanted the indie musician out of business. If said indie gets sucsessful enough on their own, they are promptly offered a recording contract, then shelved. 90 percent of all signed acts are not promoted, and thus killed. Signing with the RIAA is just plain stupid. I advise against it.
Shmoo, of Electric Gypsy
http://electricgypsy.iuma.com
(Our free CD is actually a CD-R, I am sure the RIAA would love for you to own one so they can come to your house and knock down your door without a warrent.) |
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zenflesh
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Date: October 9, 2003 @ 10:15 AM
OK, nobody posted any comment on what worried me the most from the original article (after the "no warrants" thing): "RIAA agents, backed up by police, have started to raid Midwestern record stores that carry DJ mixes." RIAA agents? While I realize this may just be semantics, I thought the RIAA was a lobbying group. I just imagine "Special Agent Fox Mulder of the RIAA"...
The most basic meaning of agent is "One empowered to act for or represent another". However, in context of raids, etc, it certainly lends itself to the more specialized meaning "A representative or official of a government". If the reporter had said "RIAA representatives" I wouldn't have flinched. |
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scayf
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Date: October 9, 2003 @ 10:44 AM
It is possible for private corporations to have their own security, as long as they adhere to state requiements (such as security officers do). These may differ from state to state, but they CAN be given powers close to what law enforcement officers have. Scarey. But conducting raids and illegally seizing private property WITHOUT A WARRANT is inexcusable.
They've been pushing it, folks, to the edge. This time, they've gone too far.
http://www.geocities.com/mr_scayf/ ... |
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scayf
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Date: October 9, 2003 @ 10:51 AM
Uh...maybe someone tipped them off.
How to Report Piracy
Up to $10,000 in Reward
Over the years, RIAA’s goal has remained constant: to create a fair and equitable marketplace free of the illegal activities of music piracy.
For those who want to contribute an ounce of prevention, RIAA is making it easy, and potentially lucrative. In August of 1999, RIAA launched its CD-Reward program that provides monetary awards of up to $10,000 to an individual who provides the association with information regarding CD manufacturers illegally producing RIAA member company sound recordings.
Consumers, retailers and replicators can report any suspected music piracy to the RIAA by dialing a toll-free hotline, 1.888.BAD.BEAT, by faxing this Badbeat Form, by sending email to cdreward@riaa.com, or visiting the website at www.CDReward.com.
RIAA will not publicly disclose the identity of the person submitting information without consent, unless it is requested by a government agency, law enforcement agency, or by court subpoena.
Straight from the RIAA's website. Turn in your friends and neighbors! Make a quick buck in the name of capitalism! No one will ever know (unless someone asks...)!
http://www.geocities.com/mr_scayf/ ... |
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Ashnaile
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Date: October 9, 2003 @ 3:45 PM
wait how is this illegal? i dont understand. |
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scayf
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Date: October 9, 2003 @ 4:35 PM
Search & Seizure. Police must have a warrant, signed by a judge, in order to search a place and seize property. The warrant must descibe the place to be searched, and also detail what is to be seized (mainly, contraband: drugs, weapons, pirated CDs, etc). There are a few exceptions (consent to search, which I doubt was given; in response to an emergency; hot pursuit; plain view seizures). if there was no warrant issued, then everything seized becomes "fruit of the poisonous tree" (those familiar with the Exclusionary Rule know what I mean). Illegally seized evidence is inadmissible in court. The case should be thrown out, and the RIAA and all law enforcement officers in charge, along with the Chief and the city, are guilty of violation the store owner's constitutional rights under the 8th Amendment.
Notice I said SHOULD be thrown out. The way the RIAA is doing business, I won't be surprised if their judge accepts the charges. Seems like they have all kinds of folks on their payroll. |
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wet1
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Date: October 9, 2003 @ 5:28 PM
Have all of you missed this? Not two months ago, here for all to see, was an article in which the RIAA was crying for the poor mom and pop stores and the condition of the music (read money when that word is said) pipeline. It was in such horrendous conditions due to p2p downloading that there were going to have to be some laws to protect the music industry from the p2p users or the music industry was going to go belly up.
My how fast we can change the tune when it suits us. Time for the spin meister to come out and put on a happy face for all us dumb country hicks out there in Joe Q. Public land.
Are these folks trying to see just how far they can push it before the door is slapped closed in their face or is it that they are so sure of the bought politicans protecting them from any backlash? |
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paulruss
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Date: October 10, 2003 @ 4:12 AM
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